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Fossil protein breakthrough will probe evolution
NewScientist.com news service ^ | 19:00 13 November 02 | Fred Pearce

Posted on 11/13/2002 1:16:37 PM PST by dead

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1 posted on 11/13/2002 1:16:37 PM PST by dead
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To: dead
Good article. I'll add it to my collection.
2 posted on 11/13/2002 1:19:58 PM PST by stanz
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To: PatrickHenry
ping
3 posted on 11/13/2002 1:20:40 PM PST by stanz
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To: VadeRetro; jennyp; Junior; longshadow; *crevo_list; RadioAstronomer; Scully; Piltdown_Woman; ...
General crevo ping.
4 posted on 11/13/2002 2:29:23 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
This one is going to be fun.
Anyone care to guess the number of posts before f.Christian appears? 15 is now taken.
5 posted on 11/13/2002 2:30:36 PM PST by Saturnalia
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To: Saturnalia
I recall the time they found those fossilized mosquitoes, and before long, they were cloning DNA
Now, I'm being chased by some irate velociraptors, well, believe me, this has been one lousy day.

Jurrasic park is frightning in the dark all the dinosaurs are running wild.
Someone shut the fence off in the rain
I admit it's kinda eerie, but this proves my "Chaos Theory"
And I don't think I'll be coming back again,
Oh noooo!

I cannot approve of this attraction, 'cause getting disembowled always makes me kinda mad.
A huge Tyrannosaurus ate our lawyer, well I suppose that proves they're really not all bad.

Jurrasic park is frightning in the dark
all the dinosaurs are running wild
Someone let T-rex out of his pen.
I'm afraid those things will harm me
Cause they sure don't act like Barney
And they think that I'm their dinner, not their friend
Oh nooo!

**Tortured screams**

Jurrasic park is frightning in the dark
All the dinosaurs are running wild
What a crummy weekend this has been.
Well, this sure ain't no E-ticket
Think I'll tell them where to stick it
'Cause I'm never coming back this way, again!
Oh nooo!!! whoooaahh nooooo!


6 posted on 11/13/2002 2:33:34 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: dead
Excellent!
8 posted on 11/13/2002 2:39:53 PM PST by Nebullis
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To: Saturnalia
Anyone care to guess the number of posts before f.Christian appears?

It depends on when his siezures subside and they decide it's save to let him have access to the keyboard. Posting here has a calming effect on him, so his keepers encourage it.

9 posted on 11/13/2002 2:41:29 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: greasyHeart
ever the optimist...
10 posted on 11/13/2002 2:43:59 PM PST by null and void
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To: Saturnalia
didn't quite make it to 15. I look forward to more articles on this subject. I expect that, as per the usual, the scientists will find that 'older' versions of man will appear "fully formed and with all of the characteristics of modern man"

The really neat test will be if and when a "lucy" type specimen is examined. It will test out to be either human or ape, not a hybrid. Lets see.

11 posted on 11/13/2002 2:46:55 PM PST by keithtoo
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To: dead
YEC bump
12 posted on 11/13/2002 2:55:16 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: Saturnalia; PatrickHenry
Anyone care to guess the number of posts before f.Christian appears?

I don’t want to speak for him, but I’d imagine he would say something like:

The riderless/homosapien (human) anamoly/Intellectual gristmart

Reguritation (regeneration) seems apt.

Darwin (fish) beats all for soulless/esotericsm/propaganda (mushoganda)!

But I’m just guessing.

13 posted on 11/13/2002 2:55:53 PM PST by dead
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To: dead
INteresting, but I don't see how it can help in our friendly debates- or all our other debates either!

If a Bison is only 1 acid different from a cow even though a million years separates them, it is not a very precise test. Also, I am pretty sure that there is more than one way to create a given protien. In other words, different genes could make the same protien. All this test measures is the protien, not the gene, so it would miss it when this happened.
14 posted on 11/13/2002 3:15:23 PM PST by Ahban
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To show the potential of their technique, Nielsen-Marsh and colleagues sequenced the amino acids in osteocalcin extracted from bones of the extinct steppe bison (Bison priscus) found in permafrost in Siberia and Alaska. Both bones are a minimum of 55,000 years old, the limit of carbon dating.

The complete sequences of amino acids exactly matched that of the modern bison (Bison bison).

Doesn't ID predict that these are all randomly different?

15 posted on 11/13/2002 3:17:48 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: dead
Boy, AndrewC and gore3000 are gonna be pissed. They've been claiming that fossils can tell us nothing about the critters they used to be.
16 posted on 11/13/2002 3:41:51 PM PST by Junior
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To: Junior
index bump
17 posted on 11/13/2002 3:57:02 PM PST by Aric2000
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To: Nebullis

I suspect the AAAS would like to update the Declaration of Independence to better reflect their view of what should be the foundation of American liberty to:

We hold these outlooks to be best, that all men are evolved, that they are endowed by accident with certain conditional allowances to be determined by us.

America is based on the assumption of God's existence. Throw that out we become just as much of a Hell on earth as was the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany.


114 posted on 11/08/2002 8:32 AM PST by Tribune7
18 posted on 11/13/2002 4:04:28 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: dead
Creationism is an atavistic holdover from a less-enlightened age of history, and when it attempts to use political power to regain what it has lost by the progress of the human intellect, the gloves come off.


897 posted on 11/13/2002 9:38 AM PST by Right Wing Professor

More like your mask/wheel...coming off---orc/ape/GRUNT 'science'!
19 posted on 11/13/2002 4:06:47 PM PST by f.Christian
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believe it or not, on other topics f.christian would appear to be capable of writing coherently

the real question is, what the hell happened to Ted Holden?

20 posted on 11/13/2002 4:07:28 PM PST by ContentiousObjector
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