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INSIDIOUS AMERICAN TERRORISM
Fiedor Report On the News #296 ^ | 11-17-02 | Doug Fiedor

Posted on 11/16/2002 12:43:26 PM PST by forest

Edited on 11/16/2002 2:32:11 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

The terrorist news is getting a little thin for the newscasters lately. Instead of action news, they're relegated to reporting baloney about Osama bin Laden: Bin Laden is dead. Bin Laden is alive. Ben Laden is sick. Ben Laden is hiding. Etc., etc.

This stuff is as boring for the American public as it must be for the news reporters. One little Predator drone firing one little Hellfire missile trumps any terrorist leadership meeting all to hell. Look for that to happen soon. And, if bin Laden is alive, he will not be then.

Meanwhile, we have real terrorism right here, under our noses, that all those in government and the liberal media intentionally overlook.

The definition of "terrorism" is quite simple to understand: "The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons."

So, when foreigners illegally come to this country and form illegal enterprises, cause violence, destroy property, and intimidate whole segments of our society, we may safely label them as terrorists.

Furthermore -- I don't know this for fact, but it's a good educated guess -- when foreigners come here with the intention of lobbing off a huge part of our country to reform as their own, most Americans would unequivocally class them as terrorists. In fact, some of us would also call them subversive combatants. That's because they are conspiring to conduct a type of war against the American people.

Here's one case in point: In 1997, Ernesto Zedillo publicly told the National Council of La Raza: "I have proudly affirmed that the Mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its borders and that Mexican migrants are an important -- a very important -- part of this."

We might mention that Ernesto Zedillo was President of Mexico at the time and he was speaking to the group in Chicago. Zedillo went on to say, "For this reason, my government proposed a constitutional amendment to allow any Mexican with the right and the desire to acquire another nationality to do so without being forced to first give up his or her Mexican nationality."

What Zedillo was doing was supporting a Mexican government approved invasion -- "la reconquista" -- of the United States by legal and illegal aliens. His intent was that Mexicans with duel citizenship vote for Mexico's interests while here.

What Zedillo knew full well was that many in the La Raza group plan to reclaim a large part of the American Southwest, California, Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico and Texas. Hispanic activists already call that area Aztlan. They say it was Mexican territory and they want it back.

Where does the actual terrorism come in? Easy. Mexico is sending us its riffraff in the form of illegal aliens. That is very obvious to anyone wanting to open their eyes and see.

Walk any barrio in the United States any warm evening. There are over ten-million illegal Hispanics living here. Some do real work and act like productive members of society. Nonetheless, they are still illegal.

A significant amount of the illegal population are involved in various illegal enterprises. Our prisons are full of them. They help other illegals immigrate, sell them false documents, find them homes and get them jobs. They are also occupied importing illegal drugs into our country. These are some of the very same illegal drugs sold to American children near schools throughout our nation.

Did we get to the terrorism yet? Then consider that murder, rape, robbery, larceny, car theft, assault and battery, and dozens of other crimes against people are pandemic in the neighborhoods frequented by these people. How many Americans do these illegals kill and/or pollute with drugs every year?

Isn't it terrorism when American citizens fear for their lives when they have to enter certain neighborhoods controlled by feral illegal aliens? If not, at what point do the violent activities of illegal aliens become terrorism?

We are being invaded. They come a few at a time, but their numbers are now in the millions. It is the responsibility of the federal government to protect us against invasion and it is time we voters start demanding federal officials start performing.

If Republicans want the vote of good Hispanic Americans, the best way to get it is to show them something beneficial. Clearing out the barrios of all violent illegal aliens would be a great start.

We should inform our government that, until all illegals are gone, we expect to see daily convoys of busses taking them back to Mexico. Else, a good many elected officials will be gone in two years.

They are, after all, a type of terrorist -- and many of them seem to be quite well organized against us.(1)

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TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Nevada; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
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We have real terrorism right here, under our noses, that all those in government and the liberal media intentionally overlook.

When foreigners illegally come to this country and form illegal enterprises, cause violence, destroy property, and intimidate whole segments of our society, we may safely label them as terrorists.

Furthermore -- I don't know this for fact, but it's a good educated guess -- when foreigners come here with the intention of lobbing off a huge part of our country to reform as their own, most Americans would unequivocally class them as terrorists. In fact, some of us would also call them subversive combatants. That's because they are conspiring to conduct a type of war against the American people.

Here's one case in point: In 1997, Ernesto Zedillo publicly told the National Council of La Raza: "I have proudly affirmed that the Mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its borders and that Mexican migrants are an important -- a very important -- part of this." Zedillo said that in Chicago.

What Zedillo knew full well was that many in the La Raza group plan to reclaim a large part of the American Southwest, California, Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico and Texas. Hispanic activists already call that area Aztlan. They say it was Mexican territory and they want it back. Where does the actual terrorism come in? Easy. Mexico is sending us its riffraff in the form of illegal aliens. That is very obvious to anyone wanting to open their eyes and see. There are over ten-million illegal Hispanics living here. Our prisons are full of them.

Did we get to the terrorism yet? Then consider that murder, rape, robbery, larceny, car theft, assault and battery, and dozens of other crimes against people are pandemic in the neighborhoods frequented by these people.

If Republicans want the vote of good Hispanic Americans, the best way to get it is to show them something beneficial. Clearing out the barrios of all violent illegal aliens would be a great start.

1 posted on 11/16/2002 12:43:26 PM PST by forest
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To: forest
AMEN!!!
2 posted on 11/16/2002 12:44:29 PM PST by Commander8
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To: forest
I have thought for some time that this does not get the attention that it deserves and furthermore seems to be going on with the full cooperation of our government.
3 posted on 11/16/2002 1:46:29 PM PST by Kerberos
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To: Commander8
AMEN!!!

I second that.

4 posted on 11/16/2002 1:54:08 PM PST by WRhine
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To: forest
I agree with the premise here, a secret nation (Aztlan) inside the USA cannot be tolerated. BUT...

I talked to a conservative latino guy (yes they exist) who insisted that the criminal types are dragging down the image of hispanics, to the detriment of the hard working sector. He says that if Bush gets his way, there would be amnesty for those who deserve to stay, while the lawbreakers would be ratted out of the community for the common good of all hispanics. The bad apples, now identified, would be deported and an eye kept out for their illegal return.

Under these conditions, I'm beginning to rethink my opinion of amnesty.

At least all these people would be identified and the good ones would now fully contribute to the economy, as their income would be tracked - like the rest of us. In theory, the bad hispanics (Aztlan Warriors) would be identified and ejected.

Don't know, still cogitating on that one.

5 posted on 11/16/2002 2:00:40 PM PST by moodyskeptic
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To: All
I know exactly what it is like to be terrorized. My community was invaded almost two years ago by Somalis.

Bear with me all, this may be somewhat of a long post, but trust me....it's gonna be an eyeopener for ya.

The Somalis in our community came from Atlanta, Georgia up here to Lewiston, Maine. Radical change from what they are used to, huh? That's what we all thought at first, too. "Somalis want to come here???" we said in disbelief. Then, we shrugged and said "whatever." We didn't think much of it at first. We assumed they we just looking for a better life in one of the (in my opinion) most beautiful states in the country.

Once a few came in, more began to arrive. Suddenly, in barely a year and a half, their numbers were over a thousand. Lewiston contained about 35,000 people before they came, and its sister city Auburn held about 40,000. That's not a lot, folks. We all know each other down here.

Crime started to increase. A lot of town kids started getting their bikes stolen, just to see the Somali kids riding them around. The unrest began in the high school. The Somalis and the native kids had a big brawl in Lewiston that involved almost four dozen people. That was just the beginning.

The Somalis began to congregate in two places: Kennedy Park and Lisbon st. After dark, there are about 30-50 Somali men that lurk there in gangs. No sane native will venture into what has become "their" parts of town. The Somalis have driven out the natives in the buildings they occupy, you see. They have taken over about half of Lewiston.

The Somalis, which number at 1,060, consume half of the city's general assistance budget at this time. The city's welfare budget (never mind the state) is doubling in order to accomodate them. I have not yet seen a Somali buy groceries with anything other than food stamps. Their medical care is free. They receive free money, in excess of 1,300 a month for a five person family. They also get their rent paid for by something called Section 8. This pays your rent based on your income, so if you don't have a job, your rent is just about paid in full. They also have a program where they can go to school for pretty much free. Yet they are driving around some pretty decent vehicles for people that don't have jobs. Later, it came out that the reason they migrated from Atlanta was because of the much more generous welfare benefits. Its true. The Somali in Clarkston that told them of Maine is quoted as saying so.

Our mayor sent their community a letter asking them to spread the word to slow Somali migration to the area until the city could catch its financial breath. This was met by a reply from the Somalis that the mayor was a racist bigot, and since they were American citizens, they had a right to live wherever they want. Basically they said, "We have the advantage over you....all we have to do is play the race card and you can't do anything about it. We can make you pay for us as long as we want you to." And you know what? They are right.

The advocacy groups that flooded the area to rescue the Somalis from the white devil began to grumble about bringing in the Justice Dept. to investigate Lewiston. First they were going to investigate Lewiston city funds, just to make sure the Somalis weren't receiving "unfair" treatment. Now they have filed a suit with the Dept. charging Lewiston with subpar, discriminatory English speaking programs. Apparently we didn't prepare for the Somalis well enough. Not that they told us they planned on coming in droves. I guess we should be psychic as well as employed.

The Somalis decided to hold the mayor responsible for any Somali coming to harm. They also asked the police dept. and the state for special protection. They were "afraid" of what the racist white devil may do to them. The only action of violence so far has been this: a lone Lewiston man was attacked by three Somalis and was stabbed three times--once in the neck. They almost cut his throat. They were charged, however, with aggravated assault.

We are being terrorized. We are forced to pay for the Somalis here as well as whatever others want to join them. We cannot do anything about it. We are not allowed to say anything about it. We cannot protect ourselves on the streets. We cannot protect our property. All of these things and more are happening, and the worst of it all? A govornment that could help us will not do it.

It is only a matter of time before it happens to the rest of you, if it hasn't already. Good luck.
6 posted on 11/16/2002 2:26:39 PM PST by Morrigan
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To: Morrigan
That truly is an eye-opener.

Until the citizens of this great land start voting out, en mass, "elected" officials that promote high rates of immigration with the 3rd world, the Subversive, Anti-American PC Leftists bent on America's destruction will continue to wield tremendous power and influence under the guise of "diversity" and "multiculturalism".

Thanks for sharing your riveting story with the forum Morrigan. Hope things get better in your community soon.

7 posted on 11/16/2002 4:21:34 PM PST by WRhine
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To: WRhine
"Until the citizens of this great land start voting out, en mass, "elected" officials that promote high rates of immigration "

Unfortunately the time for the vote, as a formidable political tool, maybe becoming obsolete as an option.

8 posted on 11/16/2002 4:39:15 PM PST by Kerberos
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To: Morrigan
And I anticipate seeing more of this in other communities across the country.
9 posted on 11/16/2002 4:40:32 PM PST by Kerberos
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To: forest
The definition of "terrorism" is quite simple to understand: "The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons."

Sorry, but that definition won't do. The American Revolution would be "terrorism" under that definition. I know, it's the offical FBI definition, but it still won't do.

The key point about terrorism is that it is a deliberate attack on noncombatants. This is the genuine distinction between a "terrorist" and a "freedom fighter."

10 posted on 11/16/2002 5:07:44 PM PST by JoeFromSidney
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To: JoeFromSidney
Sorry, but that definition won't do. The American Revolution would be "terrorism" under that definition. I know, it's the offical FBI definition, but it still won't do.


Define or re-define it as you wish. But, that definition is what is in two of my dictionaries. An on-line dictionary, too.

I don't ask the FBI for writing information -- unless I am looking up crime statistics.

11 posted on 11/16/2002 5:24:45 PM PST by Doug Fiedor
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To: forest
Spot on!

Bump from behind enemy lines!
12 posted on 11/16/2002 7:06:22 PM PST by CARepubGal
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To: Morrigan
Sounds like what happened to the citizens of Wausau Wi. Church group felt sorry for the plight of Hmong refugees after fall of Vietnam and Cambodia. Sponsored in about 50 families. Under immigration law these then were able to bring in extended families, leading what's known as "chain immmigration". You get an exponential growth rate of eligible people. Before long the area was overwhelmed with a group which had been transported from a primitive, pre literate culture and dumped into the Midwest. Poor English, no job skills, completely alien culture to the locals. Lots of gangs, welfare dependency all the usual problems. It's only lately that some of them are starting to assimilate enough to move on. Took about 2 decades.
13 posted on 11/16/2002 9:02:22 PM PST by Kozak
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To: forest
LINKS OF INTEREST:

stepping back in time...WorldNetDaily.com: "AMERICA'S 'PALESTINIANS'" -Commentary by Joseph Farah (COMMENTARY SNIPPET: "Activists who see themselves as "America's Palestinians" are gearing up a movement to carve out of the southwestern United States – a region (called Aztlan) including all of Bush's home state of Texas – a sovereign Hispanic state called the Republica del Norte. The leaders of this movement are meeting continuously with extremists from the Islamic world, and you can read for yourself how they have been inspired by the Palestinian cause, and even adopted the most vicious forms of anti-Semitism in the process, by reading their own words on their own website.") (November 15, 2001)

stepping back in time...WorldNetDaily.com: "'ARAB TERRORISTS' CROSSING BORDER Middle Eastern Illegals Find Easy Entrance Into U.S. from Mexico" by J. Zane Walley (October 19, 2001)

PALESTINIA.com.mx: "PALESTINIA DELEGACION ESPECIAL EN MEXICO"

THE STAR.com (CANADIAN PRESS): "DROP BIRTHPLACE FROM PASSPORT: WATCHDOG" by Bruce Cheadle (110502)

CANADA.com (CANADIAN PRESS): "THOUSANDS PROTEST NATIONWIDE AGAINST THE POSSIBILITY OF WAR IN IRAQ" by Jen Horsey (111602)

FBI.gov: MOST WANTED TERRORISTS: "IMAD FAYEZ MUGNIYAH" aka "Hajj" (WANTED POSTER SNIPPETS: "Mugniyah is the alleged head of the security apparatus for the terrorist organization, Lebanese Hizballah."..."The Rewards For Justice Program, United States Department of State, is offering a reward of up to $25 million for information leading directly to the apprehension and/or conviction of Imad Fayez Mugniyah.")

NATIONAL POST.com: "LEADING TERROR SUSPECT TIED TO CANADIAN CELL Imad Mugniyah: Academic Fears Operations Could Be Launched 'In and From' Canada" by Stewart Bell (111202)

DAILY STAR.com.lb - Lebanese News: "CNN ACCUSES MUGHNIEH OF PLANNING NEW ATTACK" (110902)

An Interesting Discussion on FREEREPUBLIC.com regarding a CNN.com article: "SOUTH AMERICA'S 'TRI-BORDER' BACK ON TERRORISM RADAR" (110702)

14 posted on 11/16/2002 9:06:03 PM PST by Cindy
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To: forest
There must someway to strip "Freedom Of The Press" from our amendment freedoms without stripping "Freedom Of Speech".

Sheeesh!!!! At least put a governor on the lamestream press. They are getting way too arrogant for our own health, not to mention having too much latitude. Their constant search to taint the news and suggestions of why our public should 'fear something' currently is getting to me.

Maybe we can get them on the list first for government programmable implants.

15 posted on 11/17/2002 3:36:59 PM PST by SlightOfTongue
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