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Chuck, Hil losing pull in Senate
New York Daily News ^ | 11/17/02 | TIMOTHY J. BURGER

Posted on 11/17/2002 1:36:17 AM PST by kattracks

WASHINGTON - The GOP's Senate takeover will freeze Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton out of power, testing the New York Democrats' political bridge-building skills in the clubby chamber.

With the defeat or retirement of colleagues, Schumer and Clinton will move up 10 rungs on the seniority ladder - but they'll become backbenchers.

With all Democrats booted from their committee chairmanships, Schumer loses a prized judiciary subcommittee chair which he used to hammer President Bush's judicial appointments. And there's a chance that Clinton, the state's junior senator, could be booted from a committee to make way for a Republican.

The Democrats will descend into the minority as soon as this week, when Senator-elect Jim Talent's victory in Missouri is expected to be certified.

That will give Republicans 50 of the 100 seats, with Vice President Cheney breaking the tie for the GOP. In January, Republicans will hold at least 51 seats.

Schumer and Clinton insisted the pain of the power shift will be softened by quirky Senate rules that give every senator key powers - and that the GOP's narrow majority will keep them relevant.

"Look, the bottom line is you'd rather not" relinquish power, Schumer conceded. "But fortunately, [in] the Senate, energy [and] hard work mean more than being in the majority."

"I don't think it'll change much at all," Clinton echoed. "The margin is still very tight and we have to build coalitions and relationships on both sides of the aisle to get anything done."

Said Sen. John Breaux (D-La.), a centrist deal maker: "Each senator has the ability to greatly influence legislation regardless of which party's in power."

Losing authority

Though it may happen, Clinton aides said it is highly unlikely she will lose her seat on one of her three committees.

This won't be known until party leaders renegotiate committee ratios following Democratic Sen. Mary Landrieu's hotly contested Dec. 7 runoff in Louisiana.

However, Clinton will definitely lose the authority delegated by Democratic leaders to call hearings to scrutinize the Federal Emergency Management Agency's post-Sept. 11 aid to New York. Aides insisted Clinton's strong relationship with FEMA chief Joe Allbaugh will compensate.

Schumer, meanwhile, will immediately lose his leverage to attack - and sometimes kill - Bush's judicial nominations.

"We're going to have to pick our shots with judges," Schumer said. "I'm going to have to work hard to get some moderation on judges."

The switch is also virtually certain to postpone efforts by both senators to get better committee assignments.

Both say they've worked hard to bond with GOP colleagues, but not all Republicans in the chamber agree. One senator, who chose to remain anonymous, used an expletive to describe the New Yorkers' occasional behavior as they enjoyed the power of majority status.

"You can't get help if you don't give help or you're not considerate," the senator said.

But, said Sen. Jim Jeffords (I-Vt.) - whose jump from the GOP put Democrats in power last year - Schumer and Clinton are "both superb" at building bipartisan relationships.



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1 posted on 11/17/2002 1:36:17 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
It just breaks my heart! LOL
2 posted on 11/17/2002 1:38:39 AM PST by FairOpinion
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To: kattracks
I always have used expletives to describe Hillary Clinton's behavior.
3 posted on 11/17/2002 1:42:27 AM PST by bayareablues
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To: petuniasevan
Err - preview is our friend... She...
5 posted on 11/17/2002 2:05:41 AM PST by petuniasevan
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To: kattracks
When Rudy runs against Chuckster in 2004, New York will have a new GOP Senator.

When Pataki runs against Hitlery in 2006, they'll have 2 GOP Senators.

In both cases, the Republicans will retain control of the Senate, so NY will be well represented after 2004.
6 posted on 11/17/2002 2:16:02 AM PST by jerod
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To: kattracks
...Schumer and Clinton will move up 10 rungs on the seniority ladder...

This whole seniority thing assumes that the voters will keep sending them back election after election. Senators have six year terms, so that's a long time between elections. I wonder, if the state legislature of New York got to choose the senators, who would they send?

-PJ

7 posted on 11/17/2002 2:30:42 AM PST by Political Junkie Too
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To: kattracks
Will Hillary also lose her ultra-large Senate office?
8 posted on 11/17/2002 2:58:18 AM PST by PJ-Comix
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To: kattracks
"But, said Sen. Jim Jeffords (I-Vt.) - whose jump from the GOP put Democrats in power last year - Schumer and Clinton are "both superb" at building bipartisan relationships."

Excuse me?

Mr. Jeffords we are not all from Vermont.

Some Americans can still read, write, and understand the meaning of words.

9 posted on 11/17/2002 3:40:40 AM PST by G.Mason
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To: FairOpinion
Schumer and Clinton insisted the pain of the power shift will be softened by quirky Senate rules that give every senator key powers - and that the GOP's narrow majority will keep them relevant.

"Look, the bottom line is you'd rather not" relinquish power, Schumer conceded. "But fortunately, [in] the Senate, energy [and] hard work mean more than being in the majority."


NEW SPIN. I guess they feel their pain. I sure DON'T
10 posted on 11/17/2002 4:40:34 AM PST by BMC1
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To: petuniasevan
Err - preview is our friend... She...

And preview's buddy is ieSpell. Available for free from www.iespell.com

11 posted on 11/17/2002 4:55:10 AM PST by woofer
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To: woofer
You mean http://www.iespell.com ?
12 posted on 11/17/2002 5:39:26 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: kattracks
Feel any sympathy for Hitlery? Feel any sympathy for Chuckie Schumerde, aka Senator Putz?

They're both irrelevant, and deserve to be ridiculed at every opportunity!!!!

13 posted on 11/17/2002 5:49:19 AM PST by punster
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To: kattracks
[in] the Senate, energy [and] hard work mean more than being in the majority."
"I'm going to have to work hard to get some moderation on judges."
Both say they've worked hard to bond with GOP colleagues

Can't these two come up with some new cliches?

14 posted on 11/17/2002 5:52:46 AM PST by Randjuke
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To: kattracks
And there's a chance that Clinton, the state's junior senator, could be booted from a committee to make way for a Republican.

That would be sweet!!!

Oh, but for Trent Lott, I'm sure he will capitulate to her demands

15 posted on 11/17/2002 5:57:32 AM PST by JZoback
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To: Howlin; Liz; Mudboy Slim
Great news...
16 posted on 11/17/2002 6:15:35 AM PST by Libloather
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To: kattracks
Don't despair my fellow New Yorkers, we'll have Rudy and Pataki representing us within 4 years.
17 posted on 11/17/2002 6:58:44 AM PST by nypokerface
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To: JZoback
Oh, but for Trent Lott, I'm sure he will capitulate to her demands

Lott has nothing to do with it. The Leadership decides how many Republicans and how many Dins will be on each Committee and sub-committee. Each party then fills their assigned slots.

18 posted on 11/17/2002 7:07:43 AM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon
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To: kattracks
getting an endorsement from benedict jeffords is tanamout to have your throat cut with a razor
19 posted on 11/17/2002 7:17:49 AM PST by The Wizard
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To: kattracks
Hellary should resign and go away. What ever happened to the people she ran over with her car at Westchester Airport? Can't anybody sue this b*tch?
20 posted on 11/17/2002 7:20:02 AM PST by jrlc
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To: kattracks
And there's a chance that Clinton, the state's junior senator, could be booted from a committee to make way for a Republican.


I think it's important that they expend as much political capital as necessary to ensure this happens. Hillary must be discredited as much as possible between now and 2004,2006, or when any-damn ever! Just my $.02
21 posted on 11/17/2002 7:28:29 AM PST by notdownwidems
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To: kattracks
Oh, now I know what they were saying...

"Look, the bottom line is you'd rather not" relinquish power, Schumer conceded. "But fortunately, [in] the Senate, energy [and] hard work mean more than being in the majority, bitch"

"I don't think it'll change much at all," Clinton echoed. "The margin is still very tight and we have to build coalitions and relationships on both sides of the aisle to get anything done, you @$$hole"

22 posted on 11/17/2002 7:34:01 AM PST by Slyfox
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To: Carrowsboy
I'd just feed her a pretzel. You're down with that, right?
24 posted on 11/17/2002 7:55:56 AM PST by Doctor Raoul
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To: Carrowsboy
Let's see if you can remember all the "Send Pretzels To The White House" jokes you and your liberal friends made not so long ago.

Your kind are scum to think you have some kind of moral superiority when you make the same kind of jokes.

25 posted on 11/17/2002 8:08:16 AM PST by Doctor Raoul
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To: Carrowsboy
Bet you are such a good Christian.

Why do you hate Christians (other than it's part of being a liberal)?

How do you know the poster is not a Jew or a Muslim?

Because you are a liberal BIGOT acting in HATE on an irrational stereotype of another group. That's what makes you a BIGOT.

26 posted on 11/17/2002 8:11:56 AM PST by Doctor Raoul
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To: Carrowsboy
It's called HUMOR. If you can't get a chuckle out of that, then why are you here?

Go back to DU.

27 posted on 11/17/2002 8:28:17 AM PST by mr.sarcastic
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To: kattracks
But, said Sen. Jim Jeffords (I-Vt.) - whose jump from the GOP put Democrats in power last year - Schumer and Clinton are "both superb" at building bipartisan relationships.

Well, if Jumpin' Jim says it, it must be true!

28 posted on 11/17/2002 10:20:05 AM PST by NYCVirago
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To: Doctor Raoul; mr.sarcastic
Carrowsboy signed up 2002-05-26.
This account has been banned.
29 posted on 11/17/2002 10:40:15 AM PST by BullDog108
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To: Libloather; Howlin; Mudboy Slim; Grampa Dave; NYpeanut; texasbluebell; reformed_democrat; ...
To fully convey my feelings about Hitlery's post-Nov 5
position in the US Congress, I will simply paraphrase
the famous Mark Antony eulogy (from Shakespeare's Julius Caesar).....

..........."I come to bury Hitlery, not to praise her"..........

30 posted on 11/17/2002 10:48:56 AM PST by Liz
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To: kattracks
Though it may happen, Clinton aides said it is highly unlikely she will lose her seat on one of her three committees.

This is what I'm waiting to see. If Trent Lott becomes Majority Leader again < shudder >, will he grant her the same sort of "respect" she showed him?

One can only hope.

31 posted on 11/17/2002 11:12:16 AM PST by reformed_democrat
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To: mr.sarcastic
YOu have to wonder about people who claim that StrangeCosmos, The Leftersons and Malllard Filmore are all put out by the same people.
32 posted on 11/17/2002 11:16:20 AM PST by Doctor Raoul
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To: mr.sarcastic
Of course it's humor. They have no feel for context. This one is obviously a goof. What charity would collect for a plane? It's an obvious parody.

Funny how they're the first to hide behind "HUMOR". I saw Alec Baldwin's rant and the context in which he called for the death of Hyde and his family was pure anger and pure HATE. Killing the families iof your "enemies", it's so, so,....well.....democratic, communist even.

33 posted on 11/17/2002 11:20:10 AM PST by Doctor Raoul
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To: Slyfox
Looks like a cluster ****.

Trajan88; TAMU Class of '88

34 posted on 11/17/2002 11:23:56 AM PST by Trajan88
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To: punster
bump
35 posted on 11/17/2002 11:28:40 AM PST by timestax
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To: Doctor Raoul
The rabid hateful Leftists think they can do or say anything (call for anyones death) like their savior Bill Clinton- who acts on his death list-(SEE CLINTON BODY COUNT) and get away with it.
36 posted on 11/17/2002 11:31:04 AM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: kattracks
Here come the calls for bipartisanship and needing to get along.. Please Republicans, don't do another newt!

Fight these bastards!
37 posted on 11/17/2002 11:31:22 AM PST by Monty22
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To: kattracks
Aides insisted Clinton's strong relationship with FEMA chief Joe Allbaugh will compensate.
Tight with this guy from FEMA are you? Perhaps we should ge rid of him too!
38 posted on 11/17/2002 11:34:55 AM PST by Libertina
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To: jerod
Oh Canada.....Rudy will likely not be in a position to run/win Schumer's seat. Here's why (just my opinion as a life long observer of NY politics)

1. NYC is in head long slide down the notorious slippery slope. We're broke and getting broker. Crime is rising and getting worse. The DEMS will position Rudy as the architect of the city's decline. It is a position that will be hard to argue even in the light of 9.11. People will hate Bloomberg but they will blame Rudy. This will cost him downstate

Rudy does not play well upstate, rubs them wrong.

Rudy is a one man show, an executive. Being the junior senator to Hillary's senior, and only one of 100 doesn't fit his personality, his view of himself.

4. Be ready to forget 1-3, I've been wrong before....just some thoughts.

39 posted on 11/17/2002 11:39:20 AM PST by wtc911
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
Lots of people enter the orbit of someone like a President, CEO, or celebrity. So some of the names on the death list I tend to discount as Bubba's doing.

The thing about Clinton, is that most people don't think he did it, but wouldn't be surprised if he did.

40 posted on 11/17/2002 11:40:23 AM PST by Doctor Raoul
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To: Doctor Raoul
Why don't the Repubs quit using the word "Bipartisan" They the Repubs, were elected to lead, not confer with the Dems. It is time for Lott, to say, "Hey we won, so live with it and let's get on with the Country's business"

Bipartisan my fanny.

Get a grip Lott.
41 posted on 11/17/2002 11:55:53 AM PST by BooBoo1000
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To: BooBoo1000
Tell the dems to "Move On?"

If it was not stealing someone else's idea and saying it's your own like Biden did, I'd say use it.

42 posted on 11/17/2002 1:57:32 PM PST by Doctor Raoul
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To: BooBoo1000
Why don't the Repubs quit using the word "Bipartisan" They the Repubs, were elected to lead, not confer with the Dems. It is time for Lott, to say, "Hey we won, so live with it and let's get on with the Country's business"

DITTO !!!

43 posted on 11/18/2002 6:11:49 PM PST by timestax
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