What did Dubya do in the war, daddy?

Toronto Star ^ | Nov 17, 2002 | LINDA MCQUAIG

[I got the rope]

Those caught shirking National Guard duties were usually punished by being drafted into the real army ?

This b*tch has got some nerve.

This one is for all you Liberal Lurkers. A Texas National Guardsman

[Cannon6]

"Why doesn't the media just drop this old lie. I thought Presiedent Bush or his staff presented facts that absolutely refuted this false charge."

Why if you thought this, why keep bringing it up?

[Welsh Rabbit]

I didn't choose "news flash", I selected "news". If it came to you as a news flash, then the software must have a glitch in it. Sorry about that.

I wouldn't know, I always select "latest articles". The use of the term "news flash" was meant to be sarcasm towards this McQuaig character's attempt to pass off what is common knowledge as some sort of hard-hitting expose` on Bush.

[jody_b]

See my reply #38. Neither of the two cited articles gives an official statement by President Bush or his staff on this matter. Perhaps you should go reread the two cited articles, because you have either forgotten or never knew what they said.

The easiest way out of this discussion is to say that I asked a simple question and haven't yet received an answer.

[SuziQ]

Just for the record, Linda McQuaig is a rabid anti-Bush zealot.

Nah, ya think??

[cannonball]

Dubya flew the F-102. If memory serves, all F-102s in the guard came under ADC. (Air Defence Command) Well let me tell you a bit about the ADC mission. ADC was responsible for intercepting and destroying any A/C which posed a threat to these United States. At many bases, two A/C were kept hot. That means there was a pilot in the cockpit, a power cart connected, and ready to launch.

If the A/C scrambled they were vectored to the bogy by GCI. (Ground Controlled Intercept) If the Bogy was indeed a threat, they launched on it. The profile was such that if the ordenance missed, the F-102 didn't.

The F-102 (aka the lead sled) didn't have just a whole lot of range. If the fire went out on the way home, your only choice was to punch out. No Martin Baker seat in those A/C. You were shot out by a 75mm cartridge. Crushed vertebra were not uncommon.

No, you won't hear me calling Dubya a draft doger.

[Miss Marple]

Here is my question to you: why are you expecting us to do YOUR research? Simple logic should tell you that President Bush would never have run for the presidency if he had been guilty of going AWOL. Simple logic should tell you that Ann Richards and Al Gore moved heaven and earth to find dirt on him, and the worst they could find was a DUI for which he paid a fine.

So, why are you so interested in an official statement? I see no "official" statement as necessary.

[jody_b]

Because a personal "thought" is not as good as citing an official statement by either Presiednt Bush or his staff on this topic.

I view FR as a viable source of links to facts on President Bush. Thos who have replied to this thread are clearly familiar with this topic and they have their "thoughts" on the matter. Surely someone on this forum has a link to an official reply by President Bush.

[Ol' Sox]

She's a liar...

and fugly too.

[sinkspur]

What is the link to the official position?"

The "official position" is that there is no official position. Why would Bush's people ever respond to such a ludicrous accusation?

There is nothing to this AWOL charge! If there were, Bush would have been beat over the head with it in 2000.

Besides, don't you think Bush has distinguished himself as the commander-in-chief? I do. What Bush did or didn't do when he flew jets for the Texas Air Guard is something that doesn't matter a whit to the vast majority of Americans.

You? You think a "journalist" with a face that would make a train take a dirt road is somebody serious.

[GOPJ]

Why did you post this trash?

[mrsmith]

"I've read everything in this forum's archives on this topic. "

Responding to the Globe's report that his Alabama base commander had no recollection of Bush ever showing for drills, the governor said "I pulled duty in Alabama and I read the comments and the guy said he didn't remember me. That's 27 years ago, but I remember being there."

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a392cc0874ff3.htm

[Wait4Truth]

Do you realize how obvious you are? It is also quite obvious that you do not intend to take Miss Marple's advice and read the articles. This issue has been disected a million times and if there was any truth to it, the Democrats would not have let it go. The fact that President Bush did not put out a statement that meets with your satisfaction is really not the issue here. Your desire to perpetuate a lie IS. I think I hear DU calling you. Your crap won't work here.

[Miss Marple]

This trash was posted so that she could repeatedly ask where the "official" position is.

There is no "official" position on this ridiculous charge, just like there is no "official" position on Bush "starting the war for his oil buddies." It is so ridiculous that it doesn't merit an official response.

She will keep asking for the "official" position until the cows come home.

[RWG]

Why bother about the question, the paper is in a place that isn't even a country.

[leadpenny]

Exactly right. You have been exposed, j_b. Leave quietly.

[Kenny Bunk]

Note the leftyslut's confusion between the "Army," and the "Air Force."

[Wait4Truth]

Time for this thread to die, Miss Marple? I think so.

[nygoose]

I agree with you. I was only pointing out the reasoning that was successful in the cigarette lawsuits.

[Cicero]

There's no harm in posting trash, so we know what the media are saying. What bothers me is the apparent malevolence with with jody_b keeps asking for official denials. The story is bogus, based on a nasty misinterpretation of the real facts.

I've read the records posted here. It looks to me as if Bush wanted to leave Texas in order to pursue a career, and had some problems with the National Guard bureaucracy. As a result, he missed some sessions and had to drop down from flying to deskwork. But he made up on his missed sessions. He was hardly AWOL. Instead, he was caught between doing regular national guard duties and the need to pursue a career and make a living at the same time. There were some minor irregularities which he straightened out.

Bush was a child of privilege, and he took some natural advantage of that. And his family naturally helped him out in the early years. But compared to Gore, for instance, Bush was a model of initiative and self-motivation. He was helped by his family, but after getting a good start he made his own way. That's more than you can say about Al Gore, or most of the Kennedys. There's scarcely a Kennedy since old Joe who has made his own way, and Joe made his way as a mobster.