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CONSERVATIVE Canadian pundit vs. National Review
Debate USA ^ | November 18, 2002 | Rachel Marsden

Posted on 11/18/2002 12:47:13 AM PST by jcgirl

Canadians and the War on Terror: No, Mr. Goldberg. We are not "Wimps!" By: Rachel Marsden

The most recent issue of National Review featured members of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police on horseback, decked out in ceremonial red surge, with the word "Wimps!" emblazoned in blue across the cover. Inside the issue, Jonah Goldberg ponders, at great length, Canada's "whiny and weak anti-Americanism." He then goes on to label the country "Jean Chrétien's Canada", and to suggest that Canadians are hell-bent on opposing, as a mere matter of reflex, every action that America happens to take and every position that it adopts. Goldberg barely stops short of calling Canada the lapdog of the United Nations.

First of all, Prime Minister Jean Chrétien is hardly representative of your average Joe Canuck. Thanks to the Canadian electoral system, Chrétien took office in the last federal election with far less than 50% of the popular vote. Moreover, his support in the westernmost provinces of British Columbia, Alberta and Saskatchewan was virtually non-existent. But it's no secret that the only votes needed to secure a federal victory are those in the most highly populated provinces of Ontario and Québec. Chrétien couldn't give a damn about the West; he's spent more time playing golf outside of the country than he ever has visiting Western Canada.

King Jean's voice does not echo that of the Canadian West, where voters habitually vote overwhelmingly for the Canadian Alliance--a western-born conservative party that currently forms the Official Opposition. According to a recent speech by Canadian Alliance leader, Stephen Harper, the party "is dedicated to a strong national defense and national security, including protection for Canadian citizens and loyalty to Canadian allies" like the USA.

The difference between the reigning Liberals and the Canadian Alliance is illustrated rather succinctly in the following exchange in the House of Commons between Alliance Member of Parliament James Moore and Liberal MP Bonnie Brown:

MOORE: I understand her point very well about not making lists of good and evil nations, but there are some questions and there are some people that can clearly be categorized as being evil. I am going to ask the honorable member straight up, does she believe, yes or no, that Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein are evil?

BROWN: Certainly Osama bin Laden offended us terribly.

Thus the reality-challenged Liberal Party logic appears to go as follows: Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda have "offended us", but still it wouldn't be right to offend them in return by categorizing them as "evil"! The Canadian Alliance, on the other hand, has no problem whatsoever with calling a spade a spade.

But the Liberals weren't always so soft on terrorism. As recently as 1970, then-Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau--arguably the most popular leader in Canada's history, as well as one of its most left-leaning-declared martial law and suspended the civil liberties of Canadians after a series of terrorist acts. Trudeau invoked the "War Measures Act" when the Front de Libération du Québecois-a terrorist organization that favored the rapid departure of Québec from the rest of Canada, and had planted 85 bombs and taken six lives--kidnapped James Cross (the British Trade Commissioner to Canada) and killed Québec Minister of Labour Pierre Laporte. And Trudeau invoked the act initially without even consulting Parliament. In a few cities, officials used the WMA to clean up the streets, picking up "undesirables" and throwing them into jail. Anyone belonging to the FLQ, or to any cultural or political association suspected of being linked to the FLQ, could be rounded up in the dead of night without a search warrant and incarcerated without the right of habeas corpus. More than 450 people were jailed in Québec for suspected connections to the FLQ, but most were later released without any charges being laid.

In a now-infamous exchange, Trudeau--the notorious lefty who spent his youth traipsing around communist countries, remained lifelong friends with Cuba's Fidel Castro, and was targeted and spied on by former US President Richard Nixon and the FBI for being a suspected communist--was questioned by the media on the issue of having armed soldiers and tanks in the streets of the nation's capital. He replied, "There's a lot of bleeding hearts around who just don't like to see people with helmets and guns. All I can say is go on and bleed." When asked how far he would go, Trudeau said, "Just watch me!"

In the end, the cold shoulder shown to the FLQ Trudeau in his adamancy not to negotiate with, or appease, terrorists under any circumstances, completely destroyed the FLQ. By the time the crisis had ended, Québecers and Canadians had for the first time seen a federal government willing to take extreme measures to fight terrorism. And who was the junior minister in Trudeau's cabinet at the time who urged his colleagues to order sweeping police raids and arrests throughout Québec without warning, and worry about the explanations later? It was none other than Jean Chrétien!

So no, Mr. Goldberg. Canadians are not "wimps" and the Jean Chrétien of today is not representative of all Canadians. And he certainly doesn't represent our collective take on the United Nations and the war on terrorism. Not by a long shot. Canada, after all, is far more than just Chrétien's power base in Ontario and Québec. So what exactly has happened to Chrétien over the past 30 years to make him change so seemingly drastically? Perhaps University of Moncton professor Donald Savoie has the answer when he states that "as it has evolved over the past 30 years, the Canadian political system gives Prime Minister Jean Chrétien and his successors more untrammeled authority than any US President could imagine."

Just another case of absolute power corrupting absolutely. Perhaps when Chrétien steps down from his post, as he's finally scheduled to do within the next year, Canada's true political colors will have a chance to stand out.

Rachel Marsden is a columnist/journalist who currently writes for DebateUSA.com, PoliticalUSA.com, PunditMag.com, GOPUSA.com, EtherZone.com, and WorldNetDaily.com. She is also the Senior Editor of YourNews2.com , and a regular contributor to major print dailies (such as Canada's "Vancouver Sun").

Website: www.rachelmarsden.com


TOPICS: Canada; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: 2016election; canada; election2016; jimmywales; johnstubbs; jonahgoldberg; liamdonnelly; nationalreview; rachelmarsden; simonfraseru; terrorism; waronterror; wikipedia

1 posted on 11/18/2002 12:47:13 AM PST by jcgirl
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To: jcgirl
Check out her pic on her website. Aren't conservative women hot-looking?? Could Rachel Marsden be the Canadian Ann Coulter?? Woo hoo!!! ;-)
2 posted on 11/18/2002 1:55:10 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop; jcgirl
Rachel Marsden is not, repeat not, a conservative. She is a nutball who was at the center of a trumped-up sexual harassment case against a college swim coach after she was cut from the Simon Fraser University swim team. She made a series of allegations to university harassment tribunals that caused a lot of trouble before they were eventually rejected. The swim coach, Liam Donnelley, was reinstated and the university's then president, a PC leftist named John Stubbs, resigned. The whole thing was covered ad nauseam in local media.

Afterwards Rachel Marsden, a women's studies student, hung out in harassment industry circles for a while and then landed a media job in New York with Connie Chung (before that pest jumped to CNN). She is not, repeat not, a conservative. She is a psycho. She is writing for an American website because nobody around Vancouver wants anything to do with her.

3 posted on 11/18/2002 4:30:58 AM PST by TheMole
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To: TheMole
Really? The links on her welcome page are links to conservative sites. I don't see how her being a hottie leading to the resignation of Vancouver U's PC Leftist president is any great strike against her. Still most of OUR women have brains to go along with their beauty. They're aren't as ugly looking as Helen Thomas or have the turnip intellect of a Molly Ivins. Anyway, on her photo spread page, Marsden does look hot!
4 posted on 11/18/2002 4:37:57 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: jcgirl

Rachel Marsden

5 posted on 11/18/2002 4:53:47 AM PST by Notforprophet
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To: TheMole
She is not, repeat not, a conservative. She is a psycho. .

Is the line up for the psyco party to the right or left. I'd like to cast a vote...or two....

6 posted on 11/18/2002 5:41:02 AM PST by Snowyman
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To: Snowyman
Canada is in need of more right-wing... psychos. ;-)
7 posted on 11/18/2002 5:44:14 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: jcgirl
Canadians are STILL whining about Goldberg?

How long has this been going on now, a month?

I'm beginning to think Canadians are more thin-skinned than the French.

It was satire, get over it.

8 posted on 11/18/2002 5:46:58 AM PST by TomB
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To: goldstategop
Canada is in need of more right-wing... psychos. ;-)

Speaking as a right wing nut, I am in favour of the spread of right wing nuts throughout the world. One day we will conquer the world, and being nuts, having achieved absolute power, we will give money back to those who are taxed, weapons back to those who had them confiscated, the ability to speak one's mind back to those who were censored by political correctness.

Remember, conservatism should be the only political movement that wants to achieve power for the purposes of giving it away.

Regards, Ivan

9 posted on 11/18/2002 5:48:29 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: goldstategop
Someone posing for a picture like this does not seem to be in a career to sell op-eds...


10 posted on 11/18/2002 5:49:51 AM PST by Koblenz
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To: Koblenz
Oh ok. She's a mad beauty and men don't quite know what to make of Marsden. She should have left the er... conservative op-eds to more beguiling minds. :)
11 posted on 11/18/2002 5:53:21 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: Koblenz
That looks like Alanis Morrisette, probably from the cover of her next album, "Shrieking Madly About Being Neurotic".

Regards, Ivan

12 posted on 11/18/2002 5:56:10 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: Koblenz
Jeez.... is she trying to look like Glenn Danzig? What a freak!
13 posted on 11/18/2002 5:56:13 PM PST by bourbon
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