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Malaysia State 'Cancels' Xmas As Muslims Fast
IOL ^ | 11-18-2002

Posted on 11/18/2002 3:13:25 PM PST by blam

Malaysia state 'cancels' Xmas as Muslims fast

November 18 2002 at 12:42PM

Kuala Lumpur - Malaysia's southernmost state of Johor has ordered its shopping malls to remove all Christmas decorations to give priority to the Muslim celebration of Eid-ul-Fitr next month, a newspaper reported on Monday.

State tourism chairperson Chua Soi Lek slammed shopping mall proprietors for adopting "Western cultures" and said they were overly enthusiastic about Christmas promotions.

"The Johor government is disappointed with a group of shopping complex proprietors who are influenced by Western cultures and neglect the promotion of Eid-ul-Fitr celebrations," Chua told the Star newspaper.

He instructed all malls to remove Christmas banners and posters and start "enhancing the Eid-ul-Fitr mood", said the report.

Eid-ul-Fitr will be celebrated to herald the end of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, which started on November 6.

Muslims make up 60 percent of Malaysia's population of 23 million people. - Sapa-DPA


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KEYWORDS: cancels; fast; malaysia; muslims; xmas
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1 posted on 11/18/2002 3:13:25 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
I am really starting to resent the way the muslim dogs think they can treat the rest of the world. I guess we should start thinking the way Teddy did,"when it comes to expantionism I am for it every time", it is up to us to free the rest of the world from the yoke of oppression. This is a perfect example of why the framers of the constitution chose a represtitive republic over a "democracy". Mob rule is as much tyranny as any dictatorship. Even more important we can see the real reasoning behind the separation of church and state.
2 posted on 11/18/2002 3:30:42 PM PST by Camel Joe
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To: Camel Joe
Democracy in Malaysia is based on the British model. Actually, Malaysia is more progressive than UK since they do not have a state church - UK has three of them!

They even allow in foreign missionaries -

Now, how to adjust their society so that it is more nearly like ours? First, we could make them celebrate Christmas just like the Japanese. Then, we could ship in a bunch of ACLU lawyers to raise cain about it.

That'd really mess them up when they saw who was on Islam's side, eh?!

3 posted on 11/18/2002 3:35:05 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Camel Joe
Mob rule is especially serious when the majority of the mob is illiterate and incapable of casting a legitimate ballot. Case in point. Florida in 2000.
4 posted on 11/18/2002 3:36:45 PM PST by meenie
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To: blam
He instructed all malls to remove Christmas banners and posters and start "enhancing the Eid-ul-Fitr mood",

Suggested seasonal merchandise displays might include:

- Latest fashions in suicide bomber vests from Palestine
- Subway cyanide kits from the UK
- Bushmaster rifles and sniper scopes from the US
- Stationery and anthrax sets from Iraq
- All-plastic box cutters (the perfect gift for airline passengers/hijackers)

5 posted on 11/18/2002 3:37:21 PM PST by Stefan Stackhouse
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To: Camel Joe
[I am really starting to resent the way the muslim dogs think they can treat the rest of the world. I guess we should start thinking the way Teddy did,"when it comes to expantionism I am for it every time", it is up to us to free the rest of the world from the yoke of oppression.]

First, let's stop all the 'Islam is a religion of peace' stuff and rid our country of the ones who clearly have this in mind for our future.

6 posted on 11/18/2002 3:58:44 PM PST by nanny
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To: muawiyah
Well, somehow I can't see the British government telling mall owners how to decorate their malls.
7 posted on 11/18/2002 3:59:59 PM PST by Cicero
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To: blam
Well, considering there Malayasia is in reguard to the Middle East, wouldn't the muslim religon also be part of "the western culture"?
8 posted on 11/18/2002 4:01:38 PM PST by yankeedame
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That's part of Islam's secret - it really is a Western religion. From the perspective of the Far East, using a Buddhist filter, Christianity, Judaism and Islam are pretty much the same thing except with a different order of worship and a different selection of stories and verses.
9 posted on 11/18/2002 4:07:54 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Cicero
The British government controls mall decorations through the use of zoning and other legal standards.

If you dig down into the various EU Commission rulings, I am sure you will find that malls all over Europe are subject to the control of a bureaucrat in Brussels.

10 posted on 11/18/2002 4:09:50 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
You are right about EEC regulations. They specify every aspect of what can and can't be used in a promotion. It would be far, far, too risky to leave it up to the customer. Bureaucrats rule.

This Malaysian example is an instruction from a governor in one of the states. The state governments in Malaysia are elected, and seem to have more extremists and nutters than the federal body. Every so often, the Malaysian govt has to pull them into line - in recent years over religious extremism. I don't know if this is just a recommendation to the stores, or if it can be in any way enforced.
11 posted on 11/18/2002 4:17:34 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: blam
,,, time for some western terrorists to deal to their twin towers.
12 posted on 11/18/2002 4:19:59 PM PST by shaggy eel
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To: shaggy eel
",,, time for some western terrorists to deal to their twin towers."

The tallest in the world, they are.

14 posted on 11/18/2002 4:58:43 PM PST by blam
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To: Go Dub Go
We would demand that the Government step in a ban them? And if a shopkeeper refused, he would be killed? (This, of course, is what will happen to those who do).
15 posted on 11/18/2002 5:17:11 PM PST by Guillermo
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To: muawiyah
That's part of Islam's secret - it really is a Western religion. From the perspective of the Far East, using a Buddhist filter, Christianity, Judaism and Islam are pretty much the same thing except with a different order of worship and a different selection of stories and verses.

I think you need to adjust your filter there pal. Islam is NOTHING like Christianity and Judaism. It may have 'borrowed' some of the history (not stories) of Judaism and Christianity, but that is where all similarities end. Islam is a religion of hate and death towards the 'infidel' who must be converted to Islam at the point of a sword or die, and worship of the ancient moon god Allah, who is most definitely not the God of the Torah or the Bible. The God of the Bible is a loving God, desiring that none should perish, but that all would come to salvation through faith in the messiah, Jesus Christ.

16 posted on 11/18/2002 5:28:12 PM PST by vrwc1
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To: blam
Johor (Malaysia)

17 posted on 11/18/2002 5:33:18 PM PST by Consort
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To: Go Dub Go
,,, it all depends on what you're selling with this giant cult.
18 posted on 11/18/2002 5:35:12 PM PST by shaggy eel
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To: vrwc1
A question for you - if Allah is some sort of Moon god, then who is the Allah whose name is invoked in the Syrian Orthodox church?

Sure bet it'd be a surprise to all those Christian Orthodox tall hat guys if they knew that one of their number, the Syrian Patriarch, was worshipping a Moon god, eh?!

Amazingly they've been calling God by the name Allah since long before there was an Islam.

BTW, don't go telling me Syrian Orthodox are not Christian.

19 posted on 11/18/2002 6:07:01 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
I know absolutely nothing about the "Syrian Orthodox" church. But I will tell you this - nowhere in the Bible is the name 'Allah' used for God. So where those guys picked it up I have no idea. I do know, however, that it isn't Biblical, so therefore it isn't "Christian" as far as I'm concerned! Millions of other Christians would be of the same opinion.
20 posted on 11/18/2002 6:14:35 PM PST by vrwc1
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