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To: jjm2111
Kurt Cobain was a talented musician in a very talented band. He and Nirvana did represent a good portion of the feelings of the Gen X generations, but by no means are they representational. (With the exception of their cynicism - "Teenage angst has paid off well")

However, he is still and effing loser with a drug habit and he offed himself and left family and friends behind. An act of selfishness.

Pop culture is always looking for something more deep in the actions and songs of rock stars since the Beatles. I have hint for you - don't. They are not role models and rarely have anything thoughtful or profound to contribute to the cultural discussion. Just enjoy their music.

11 posted on 11/20/2002 11:31:25 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: KC_Conspirator
"'I hope I die before I become Pete Townshend'. So wrote Kurt Cobain in these so-called Journals in the middle of one of his rants against the rock press establishment. Why? Because I had become a bore? Because I had failed to die young? Because I had become conventional? Or, simply because I had become old? In fact, in 1993, by the time Kurt was struggling with himself over whether or not to do an interview with Rolling Stone magazine, I was not boring, neither old nor young, and I was not dead...."

"Nirvana, and its principle creative architect Kurt Cobain, are considered by many in the U.K. to be the most important band of all time in the history of rock. ... As a song-writer and rock architect myself, I was interested to look behind the creative process of Kurt Cobain. I am always excited to see how artists think, systemise or collate their ideas before and after making recordings or doing tours. Nirvana's first album Nevermind (after Never Mind The Bollocks Here's The Sex Pistols perhaps?) was a breath of 'punk' fresh air in the musically stale early '90s. It defined what came to be known as 'grunge' (although other then new rock acts were major players - Pearl Jam have survived intact until today). ..."

I have before me a sober and distinguished hardback book. It is a coffee table item, heavy, impressive. The word 'Journals' is quietly inscribed under the author's name. The inner jacket is deep purple. ...What follows appear to be the scribblings and doodlings of a crazed and depressed drug-addict in the midst of what many in drug rehab are taught to describe as 'stinking thinking'. That is, the resentful, childish, petulant and selfish desire to accuse, blame and berate the world for all its wrongs, to wish to escape, or overcome (usually in fantasy), and finally to take no responsibility whatsoever for any part of the ultimate downfall. Me an expert? Of course. Been there, done that. Back to the academy."

excerpted from Pete Townshend's blog. Sorry, but I lost the link.
13 posted on 11/20/2002 11:34:56 AM PST by jjm2111
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To: KC_Conspirator
Some of their songs are ok, but I really don't see the historic significance of the music.I'm probably too young to really have any real appreciation for the Gen X b.s. that Nirvana purports to represent. (I was still in Grammar school when Nirvana first came out; and only a freshman in high school when "Smells like Teen Spirit" debued.)

Then again, I'm a hopeless optimist and I've never really been depressed for more than a couple of hours; a day max. I feel every day alive w/ all my talents and good fortune is a blessing and I'd rather not waste it. If cobain and I met; we wouldn't even come close to understanding one another.
18 posted on 11/20/2002 11:41:32 AM PST by jjm2111
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