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FREE TRADE IS A BAD IDEA
Bob Lonsberry ^ | 11/25/2002 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 11/25/2002 8:15:37 AM PST by SAMWolf

I hope they don't kick me out of the Republican Party for this.

But free trade is a bad idea.

For years it hasn't set right with me, and I've tried to figure out why. And now I know. It's because it violates a simple principle of life.

And that is self-reliance.

International free trade, while certainly necessary and useful to an extent, can easily be overemphasized to such a degree that it jeopardizes a country's economic self-interest and national security.

The United States is a good example.

But first, let's look at Mexico.

Under the North American Free Trade Agreement, all Mexican protections against American or Canadian agricultural imports are about to disappear. That means cheaper Canadian and American farm products are going to flood Mexico.

And Mexican farms are going to close down. The impact on Mexican agriculture is going to be immense.

Which means Mexico is going to be less capable of supplying its own needs. And it means a ton of farm workers are going to be out of work and headed north. And that's not good for anybody.

Just like it's no good that the United States has a dramatic trade deficit, that it buys far more from overseas than it sells. And that there are entire sections of the American economy which are dependent on foreign goods. For whole product lines, there simply are no American manufacturers anymore. From electronic goods to clothing to steel, we don't make things anymore.

And American corporations are closing domestic factories to shift manufacturing overseas.

All of which fits perfectly into the world of free trade.

And all of which screws us royally.

Because independence is good and interdependence is bad. Because interdependence is the same as reliance and that is the opposite of self-reliance.

And history teaches that -- without exception -- prosperity and security require national self-reliance. Americans should eat American agricultural products and use American manufactured products and channel their income back into the economy that produced it -- the American economy. When a nation becomes reliant on foreign products -- as the United States clearly is -- its comfort and peace are held hostage by the producers of those foreign products.

If a nation cannot produce what it needs -- as the United States now cannot -- it is in a precarious position that weakens and enslaves it.

We will be weakened as we exchange our prosperity -- hard currency -- for foreign products, and we will be enslaved as our national policy inevitably must be tailored to preserve our access to foreign goods. These are truths which have been understood and implemented around the world for centuries. To abandon them now is to abandon national self-interest and to doom the United States to premature but certain decline.

And it is to bring the same fate to many nations of the world.

In developing countries, lingering poverty and delayed development are tied directly to a failure to be nationally self-reliant. When nations feed themselves, they do not starve. When they manufacture their own goods, they don't go without.

When they understand that their consumer dollars must be recycled into their own economies, they do not long linger in recession or unemployment.

Free trade serves a very few at the top of international corporations, but it does not serve the average American. Rather, it takes away his job and his nation's strength.

Certainly, the flow of goods and produce around the globe is needful and beneficial, but so is protection, and buttering your own bread first. The sense of national economic identity must not be lost, and neither should the commitment to protecting American prosperity -- even at the cost of limiting free trade.

Our first obligation is to feed, house, clothe and prosper American families. Every thing else comes second. That must be our attitude. Just as Mexico and every other nation must have the same attitude about its people and its economy.

Independence is good, interdependence is bad.

Self-reliance is the key to prosperity -- for individuals and nations.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: freetrade; globalism; oneworlders
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To: SAMWolf
Our federal tax structure amounts to a tariff on American made products. By doing away with income and social security taxes, and switching to external tariffs, we, as consumers, still bear the ultimate burden of the taxes in the prices of what we buy, but the cost of producing American goods, vis-a-vis foreign goods, is radically reduced. In short, our tax structure should be designed for our, rather than other nations' benefit.
41 posted on 11/25/2002 9:18:46 AM PST by per loin
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To: ThomasJefferson
The failures of government are the problem, not the free market.

There's the problem in a nutshell.

42 posted on 11/25/2002 9:18:49 AM PST by SAMWolf
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To: ThomasJefferson
The majority of our country will always be more able to earn a living compared to the rest of the world as long as we are freer than them.

We're not. Compared to the Third World, our government places significant restrictions on domestic production and utilization of our own natural resources.

44 posted on 11/25/2002 9:22:47 AM PST by Willie Green
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To: RLK
Like many others you want stuff cheap and don't want to pay anything, then wonder why the people her you have replaced with slave labor can'r afford you products or services. Bump!

It's interesting that the 'free-marketers' proclaim "capitalism!" and then dive right in and cut deals with socialist and communist governments for inhumane sweatshop and slave labor. It seems the "free-marketers" would rather support communist and socialist governments the world over instead of supporting capitalism at home in the US.

45 posted on 11/25/2002 9:24:51 AM PST by JoeMomma
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To: Willie Green
And don't forget that pesky minimum wage. That is a MAJOR factor on why jobs leave this country.
46 posted on 11/25/2002 9:24:58 AM PST by Texaggie79
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To: SAMWolf
So let me get this straight. In the event a person tries to enter or exit the country with goods, you wish to use any means neccesary to stop them.

Funny idea of freedom you have there.

So if a ship full of sugar tries to dock in the United States, you believe the navy should intercept them? After all, growing sugar in the Everglades or getting it at 3X market value from beets is the intelligent solution to the problem.Did you notice the LifeSaver candy factory just left the country? Put 2 and 2 together.

If we were at war, other nations would send ships to blockade our ports. You are suggesting we do to ourselves what enemies would do to us in times of war.

47 posted on 11/25/2002 9:25:50 AM PST by AdamSelene235
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To: Willie Green
We're not. Compared to the Third World, our government places significant restrictions on domestic production and utilization of our own natural resources.

And THAT is the problem. Fascism is a terrible thing.

Make the country freer, and you will be fixing the cause of the problem.

48 posted on 11/25/2002 9:28:34 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: JoeMomma
Slave labor? Really? Do you honestly believe that the workers are physically FORCED to work?

Sure, they work because of their financial situation but we cannot help that. However, it is a mutual relationship. They willingly work because they desperately need the money. If their governments DID create a minimum wage, our companies would leave and their poor would starve. So, you see, it is free market that saves their people, even when they live under corrupt or oppressive governments.

What better way is there to prove the superiority of capitalism?
49 posted on 11/25/2002 9:29:24 AM PST by Texaggie79
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To: Texaggie79
And don't forget that pesky minimum wage. That is a MAJOR factor on why jobs leave this country.

Spot on. I made that point in an earlier post but no response was forthcoming.

50 posted on 11/25/2002 9:31:18 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: ThomasJefferson; Texaggie79
At least we agree on that. I despise the minimum wage.
51 posted on 11/25/2002 9:33:30 AM PST by SAMWolf
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To: Texaggie79
Sure, they work because of their financial situation but we cannot help that.

The vast majority of the people who make what is described as "slave wages" have raised their standard of living by huge amounts and proportionately are well off in their respective societies.

52 posted on 11/25/2002 9:34:48 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: SAMWolf; Willie Green
Where are ya Willie? Let us have it. Why must we worship the minimum wage?
53 posted on 11/25/2002 9:36:48 AM PST by Texaggie79
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To: ThomasJefferson; Texaggie79
You guys are doing very well. Besides iterating the principles of free trade, you are doing it in a way that gets right to the point, clearly and concisely.

Walter Williams would be proud.

54 posted on 11/25/2002 9:37:39 AM PST by sinkspur
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To: ThomasJefferson
Exactly. I love how people say "We are exploiting them." I guess we should just not hire them at all, and let them live in complete poverty.

"You can pay them more". No, if we pay them more, it would no longer be financially feasible to go all the way over there to get labor.
55 posted on 11/25/2002 9:38:51 AM PST by Texaggie79
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To: SAMWolf
At least we agree on that. I despise the minimum wage.

Excellent. It is of course just fascism which is not recognised as such by most folks in this country.

The goverment is merely asserting it's power to set prices at it's whim for political purpose. They are in effect telling you that you own things only at their pleasure.

56 posted on 11/25/2002 9:39:08 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: sinkspur
Bows at the mention of Walter Williams name....... :)
57 posted on 11/25/2002 9:39:47 AM PST by Texaggie79
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To: BrowningBAR
When companies relocate overseas you have to ask yourself are they patriotic?

Does being "patriotic" require you to wash down that nice tasty Heaven's Gate applesauce with some Jonestown Grape Kool-Aid?

Why can't business be the same way?

Because, at some point, businesses need to make a profit.

Am I so naive, and unsophisticated I just don't understand?

Yes.

Free trade is not my religion. If there are problems with the tax code - then work to fix it.

Businesses have tried to do so, but after over half a century of Democratic politics of class warfare and envy, they realized that it was a lost cause.

Abondoning your country is inexcusable.

Actually, it's more like their country abandoned them--but only after extorting lots of campaign contributions first.

58 posted on 11/25/2002 9:40:13 AM PST by Poohbah
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To: Texaggie79
"You can pay them more". No, if we pay them more, it would no longer be financially feasible to go all the way over there to get labor.

And I would add it is marginal for much of the production at least on the front end due to substandard production facilites and an undereducated work force with higher rates of training expenses and product quality control expenses.

That is why we never heard the "giant sucking sound" predicted by the populist Ross Perot.

59 posted on 11/25/2002 9:43:00 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: BrowningBAR
When companies relocate overseas you have to ask yourself are they patriotic?

Indeed they are. They are freeing up our resources for higher paying jobs. They are still headquartered here. Therefore, the REAL paying jobs in that company are American.

60 posted on 11/25/2002 9:44:14 AM PST by Texaggie79
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