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U.S. Navy seizes cadet computers in bootleg probe
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| 11/25/02
Posted on 11/25/2002 3:01:28 PM PST by I_Love_My_Husband
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Hillary Rosen, RIAA-dyke and her nazi-like thugs strike again. This time servicemen who make less than $1000 a month.
To: dead; Bella_Bru
ping
To: I_Love_My_Husband
Why start at the Naval Academy? Why not Berkeley?
To: I_Love_My_Husband
Sounds like a good use of taxpayer dollars. /sarcasm
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posted on
11/25/2002 3:08:15 PM PST
by
lelio
To: Paleo Conservative
Hilary Rosen is a dyke. She wouldn't go after her own kind, however, she would go after the military since she is a rabid leftie.
To: Paleo Conservative
Why start at the Naval Academy? Why not Berkeley? Because the service academies adhere to an honor code. Cadets and Midshipmen do not lie, cheat , or steal, or tolerate those that do. Controversial as this may be, Mids and Cadets know the rules, and know very well the consequences of violations. If they can not live by the rules honorably in this situation, they can not be entrusted with the lives of troops or national assets in positions of higher responsibility. Sorry for them, but the institution is a stake and it is worth far more than the education of a few students with no more to do with the taxpayers money than download music.
USNA84
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posted on
11/25/2002 3:15:15 PM PST
by
Magnum44
To: I_Love_My_Husband
bump
To: I_Love_My_Husband
she can take my iPod from my cold dead fingers!
To: I_Love_My_Husband
I've never pirated, but I think piracy (of Hollywood stuff, at least) is patriotism.
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posted on
11/25/2002 4:07:32 PM PST
by
gaijin
To: Magnum44
Minor in nature but copping the music is a violation of the honor code. Hope they don't get expelled though.
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posted on
11/25/2002 4:09:54 PM PST
by
dwilli
To: I_Love_My_Husband
Who went after these college students? Who allowed it to happen?
To: I_Love_My_Husband
Why the military?
They could descend on any college campus in the world, and find it.
Why the military?
Will they go after the University of Michigan after?
NOT!!!!
Angela davis would sh**t.
To: Magnum44; Dark Wing
Don't assume that the administrators know the difference between legal and illegal music files. As an example, clips and some full tracks of the
Lord of the Rings - The Two Towers film score were posted on the internet with permission of the copyright holders as a promotional tool. They want people to download and listen to them to increase the chances of more people buying the whole CD. I've had that CD on pre-order for months, and jumped at the chance to hear some it in advance.
I have racks of music CD's in my office, of which many have been ripped to my office PC so I can create playlists from them. The symphonies stay on the CD's. Shorter pieces are ripped.
All of these practices are not merely legal, but encouraged by the copyright holders. I do not expect, however, that Naval Academy administrators are capable of such fine distinctions, and do expect that they will blast the incipient careers of many innocent cadets.
This is not an area for criminal sanctions. The Navy risks alienating prospective techies and pointing them towards the Air Force instead.
I have personal knowledge that this is already happening. My daughter's boyfriend Willie is entering the Air Force after Christmas and told me that the Navy has a reputation for cluelessness among geeks. The administration of my town's high school was terrified when Willie graduated last year, for fear of losing his services, and offered him $2500 a month for a year as a consultant to keep on doing for them what he did as a student, and train a better-paid replacement, before joining the service. Willie wouldn't let the Navy recruiter in the door.
Willie has every episode of Pinky and the Brain in German on DVD. He says it's funnier in German. I like him.
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posted on
11/25/2002 6:07:16 PM PST
by
Thud
To: I_Love_My_Husband
"...Cadets could face court martial or expulsion ...."
Uh, if it was West Point or the Air Force Academy cracking down, then it would be cadets in trouble, but since it's the Naval Academy, it should read "Midshipmen could face court martial or expulsion ....".
To: Paleo Conservative
Why start at the Naval Academy? Why not Berkeley? Damned good question.
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posted on
11/25/2002 8:28:05 PM PST
by
TankerKC
To: Thud
I do not expect, however, that Naval Academy administrators are capable of such fine distinctions... I think you underestimate the integrity of those in uniform who are responsible for raising our future leadership, both in the service academy administrations, and fellow students who do honor the code.
The Navy risks alienating prospective techies and pointing them towards the Air Force instead.
None of the service academies want there reputations tarnished by dishonosty and poor character. And prospective techies with no integrity are of little use in the professional military. As a leader, or in my leaders, I want people I can trust who will do the right thing and look out for their troops, not who is most 'high tech'.
My daughter's boyfriend Willie is entering the Air Force after Christmas and told me that the Navy has a reputation for cluelessness among geeks.
An immature attitude that I hope he outgrows if he is to be a successful military officer.
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posted on
11/26/2002 8:29:19 AM PST
by
Magnum44
To: TankerKC
Damned good question. Answer provided in #6
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posted on
11/26/2002 8:39:18 AM PST
by
Magnum44
To: Magnum44
I read it, and I believe that it is a good explanation. I do get a bit tired of hearing about all of the honor of academy grads though. When I was at the Air Force Institute of Technology (AFIT, similar to NPS), we had a bit a of cheating scandal. Our student class leader said that he couldnt deal with the situation, because, as an academy grad, he had no experience or tolerance for cheaters. When the facts came out, the two involved in the cheating were academy grads. So, do not lie, cheat , or steal, or tolerate those that do is a great slogan, and an admirable goal, but it is not reality.
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posted on
11/26/2002 8:52:24 AM PST
by
TankerKC
To: TankerKC
What happened to the cheaters?
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posted on
11/26/2002 8:58:05 AM PST
by
Magnum44
To: Magnum44
My daughter's boyfriend Willie is entering the Air Force after Christmas and told me that the Navy has a reputation for cluelessness among geeks.
An immature attitude that I hope he outgrows if he is to be a successful military officer. Er, what "immature attitude"? I don't see any reason to doubt that the Navy has such a reputation. The progress of the investigation, and its competence at differentiating between lawful fair use and illicit bootlegging (if any), will illustrate whether or not the reputation is justified.
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posted on
11/26/2002 9:03:08 AM PST
by
steve-b
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