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To: RonF
It seems to me that the Berkeley City Council has every right to charge Ship 42 the same docking fee as any other NFP. .... the upper limit would seem to be what they charge a private party.

It's as if they think that since the BSA doesn't allow "avowed" gays or atheists as members, nothing about the BSA is good, and it deserves to have everything it has earned or paid for taken from it, and to be cut off from the public. It is, in fact, not at all far fetched to think that there are deliberate attempts to bleed it dry; the death of a thousand cuts.

Which is what Chad and I were trying to tell you on Salon "TableTalk", Ron: These are not nice people, under the rubric that "People who are nice to you but rude to the waiter, are not nice people."

Nice to see you again, and I think you got it right both times. No obligation on the part of Berkeley to treat the Scouts differently than other eleemosynary groups (taking a pass on the marina-fill issue), and no obligation on the Scouts to do what Berkeley's political leadership manifestly wants them to do.

On the whole, maybe the divorcement is a good thing. Maybe at the most basic level it's simply true, that Berkeley doesn't deserve the benefits of scouting, which ought to be redirected to other, nearby communities that appreciate Scouts and scouting instead.

73 posted on 11/29/2002 5:14:25 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus
Ha! Another TT'er. Oh, no, I have never been under the opinion that everyone condemning the BSA's policies had only the welfare of young people in mind. Some opponents would be quite pleased to destroy the organization, or greatly change it's nature to a mere youth recreational league.

If the Berkeley City Marina uses any Federal subsidies in their capital or operational budgets, I wonder if the Equal Access Act could be applied in such a way as to negate the local anti-discrimination policy?

Of course, using a Federal law to override a local one is not exactly conservative, is it?

76 posted on 11/29/2002 6:45:08 PM PST by RonF
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