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Disastrous Wellstone Service Analyzed
Yahoo News - AP ^ | 11/26/02 | Patrick Howe

Posted on 11/26/2002 1:00:29 PM PST by What Is Ain't

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To: KarlInOhio
I enjoyed Rush Limbaugh's approach to the whole thing -- his dream Election Day scenario was one in which the GOP gained control of the Senate but both Lautenberg and Mondale won their races.

There isn't a bigger loser on the planet right now than Frank Lautenberg. I'm sure Mondale spent the entire Election Tuesday night calling his campaign managers to tell them not to order any recount under any circumstances. In fact, he probably waited until the results from other states were in, then had several thousand of his supporters go out and vote for Coleman.

41 posted on 11/26/2002 1:59:26 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: What Is Ain't
But Kahn said in a radio interview the week after the election he intended his speech to be a personal expression of grief. He said he had no regrets: "I didn't say anything bad at all, and I wouldn't. It's not in my heart."

Do you think he's lying?  Or do you think he's really such a completely clueless jackass that he didn't know his behavior was absolutely uncivil?

42 posted on 11/26/2002 2:01:12 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: What Is Ain't
Wellstone campaign manager Jeff Blodgett apologized for the event the next morning but declined to revisit it in a recent interview, saying: "We've paid the price for the memorial many times over. We're moving on."

You're not moving on until the clerk in the unemployment line yells:

"Next!"

43 posted on 11/26/2002 2:03:16 PM PST by NorCoGOP
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To: Alberta's Child
Torch, who hates Lautenfraud, must be laughing... Launtenfraud stuck in the minority.
44 posted on 11/26/2002 2:05:38 PM PST by mwl1
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To: mwl1
I'm surprised they didn't get along well, since they're both @ssholes.
45 posted on 11/26/2002 2:07:29 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Revolting cat!
"When the unexpected and tragic happens, that's a disaster. Here, on the other hand, everything went according to the plan!"

Ahhh...but to THEM, Wellstone's death was a blessing because he wasn't doing well in the polls. They could care less about people dying. People low, vile things to them. Just ask them...they'll tell you.

The DISASTER to them was the idea their lunacy during the memorial/celebration/campaign-kickoff rally may have cost them the election. It may not have made much difference, either...of all the has-beens they could dig up and dust off, MONDALE was the worst possible choice.

46 posted on 11/26/2002 2:13:12 PM PST by cake_crumb
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To: zarf
The simple fact that the service was simply in bad taste is beyond the DumboCrap analysts.

I refer to this phenomenon as The Reverse Sally Field Moment, when the subject suddenly realizes, "You don't like me. You really don't like me!"

Normal human defenses will prevent The Reverse Sally Field Moment at all costs and in the face of almost any evidence.

47 posted on 11/26/2002 2:16:15 PM PST by Republican Landslide
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To: lelio
"Is this the new Democratic mantra? We didn't label this correctly"

Nah, it's not new. They've always given nasty things different labels, in order to make them more appealing to the masses. They've labeled socialist collectivism as "sensitivity" for years. Examples from recent history: "saving Bosnia", "it takes a villiage", "co-you-know-what-sident" and "Senate plurality leader"

48 posted on 11/26/2002 2:20:41 PM PST by cake_crumb
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To: What Is Ain't
The problem wasn't what the family did, or the Wellstone campiagn, but what Daschle did, and the Democratic National Committee.

The Dems keep trying to blame Kahn - but it was Tom Harkin who was the most blatant offender.
49 posted on 11/26/2002 2:23:41 PM PST by jdege
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To: What Is Ain't
Mark Penn, who conducts polls for former President Clinton

Conducts as in present tense.

Sleazy bum can't stop asking the mirror on the wall about his legacy.

Pathetic!

50 posted on 11/26/2002 2:24:40 PM PST by N. Theknow
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To: Blue Screen of Death
"when did we become such an unforgiving country"

How do you forgive someone who hasn't apologized?

51 posted on 11/26/2002 2:25:12 PM PST by jdege
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To: What Is Ain't
"To expect that 15- or 20,000 Wellstone supporters would be quiet as pictures of Trent Lott and others flashed on the screen was too much to expect," said Steve Smith, director of the Weidenbaum Center on the Economy, Government and Public Policy at Washington University in St. Louis.

OK, pal. If you say so. Personally, I think you're full of used food, but whatever blows your skirt up. What was too much to expect was the American electorate putting up with so-called "liberal" shenanigans such as the Wellstone Funearally. The internet and so-called 'conservative' news outlets are at least providing an alternative to the classical brainwashing the mouthbreathers have been subject to for decades. I'm at least seeing encouraging signs of life in the electorate, though I won't hold my breath.

52 posted on 11/26/2002 2:27:33 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: jdege
The Dems keep trying to blame Kahn - but it was Tom Harkin who was the most blatant offender.

That's a good point. Somewhere on FreeRepublic there is a personal account from a Freeper who was riding on the same Amtrak train as Democratic speechwriter Bob Shrum on the day of that Wellstone rally -- and he overheard all of Shrum's cell phone conversations with McAuliffe, Harkin, etc. while Shrum was writing the speech that Harkin would deliver that night.

53 posted on 11/26/2002 2:31:35 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: What Is Ain't
The memorial service didn't help. But there are real substantive reasons the Dems got hammered in the last election. And they seem to be having a lot of trouble aknowledging that.
54 posted on 11/26/2002 2:34:24 PM PST by MattAMiller
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To: Alberta's Child
There isn't a bigger loser on the planet right now than Frank Lautenberg.

The problem is that the governor of NJ is a dem (IIRC). Lautenberg can step down in six months for "health" reasons and another dem will be put in. Mondale would have had to stick out the full term to keep a Republican governor from replacing him with a Republican.

55 posted on 11/26/2002 2:35:07 PM PST by KarlInOhio
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To: afraidfortherepublic
How about the consession stands?
56 posted on 11/26/2002 2:38:34 PM PST by cake_crumb
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To: What Is Ain't
I can't believe they are still rationalizing that circus. Here's the first, best analysis, LIVE as it happened, courtesy of FReepers:

Wellstone Memorial on C-SPAN2 NOW!

57 posted on 11/26/2002 2:38:38 PM PST by Dixie Mom
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To: What Is Ain't
"The problem here was that this was an event controlled by a family that was grieving and a campaign staff that was no longer in the campaign," Smith said. "So, there were errors in judgment."

Stupid idiots! The PROBLEM was that the Clintoons and the Mondale's don't have sense enough to behave in a reverent manner at a MEMORIAL SERVICE, for God's sake. It irritates the heck out of me that they're blaming this on the grieving family members of Paul Wellstone. The family members didn't tell the Clintoons and the Mondale's to behave like disgusting, IDIOTS! Grrrrrrrrr.

58 posted on 11/26/2002 2:39:49 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: KarlInOhio
Lautenberg can step down in six months for "health" reasons and another dem will be put in.

That works for the Democrats if their only goal is to keep the seat in Democratic hands, but life will be a lot easier for the Bush administration now that they can write off New Jersey entirely.

Look at Vermont, with two of the biggest @ssholes in the U.S. Senate (Jim Jeffords and Pat Leahy). That state isn't going to get a nickel of federal money for the next two years, even if al-Qaeda sends a billion Islamic terrorists to invade from Canada.

59 posted on 11/26/2002 2:43:00 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: KarlInOhio
Sorry for not completing that thought . . .

In other words, nobody who McGreevey might name to replace the Lout (other than any number of Republicans) is going to make one heck of a difference for New Jersey in the U.S. Senate.

60 posted on 11/26/2002 2:44:53 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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