7 Reasons Why Israel is Entitled to The Land

GAMLA ^ | March 4, 2002 | Senator James M. Inhofe

[wewereright]

Your are absolutely right - but be prepared to be called anti-semetic.

[Radix]

"Boy...That nifty catch-phrase sure does get a work-out around here. Too bad it means nothing due to overuse."


You make a good point. You are right. I think however that this is after all just a message board. You will see a lot of things posted repeatedly here. There are I suppose thousands of like minded people who come here!

I resent terrorism too! It is my belief that there is only one way to handle it. We need to demonstrate that we will not tolerate it. Those who use terror tactics must be made to pay in such a way that they will not consider using it again.

That is not likely due to the fact that we are dealing mostly with Primitives. We have to do what we can though!

It is Clobberin Time!

[Blennos]

Well, I think that Israel has a right to the land by virtue of conquest, and that the U.S. has an interest in that by virture of Isreal being a democracy, anti-terrorist, etc.

I think your analysis is entirely correct. Regardless of how and why they acquired this land, 3000 years ago or 50 years ago, this land belongs to the nation of Israel; and as they are our staunch ally, we should support them in maintaining their control.

No other nation is being called upon to justify, ad nauseum, their "right" to the land that they exist upon.

[wewereright]

What do you mean "going to have to pay for their religious beliefs." As an American tax payer I help to subsidize every man, women and child in Israel. As an upper income peron I give more than most. It's bad enough what the Israelis are doing in the occupied lands - but why should I have to help pay the cost?

[umgud]

Don't get me wrong...I support Israel 100%, specifically because they are the best of allies in an area where we desparately need allies. But due to both religions, the rest of the world suffers from terrorist activity. I resent that.

Can I assume that you believe there would be peace in the ME without the Jews or our support for them? What is it about their religion that currently foments terrorist activity?

[wewereright]

it's not obvious? They are using religion to justify the subjagation other peoples.

[boris]

"Can I assume that you believe there would be peace in the ME without the Jews or our support for them?"

Of course there would be peace. Corpses are very peaceful.

In the islamic mind, death=peace.

--Boris

[TLBSHOW]

The British at that time said they were going to give the Jewish people a homeland

a side note, did you know it was the liberal owner of the Guardian newspaper in London that got the ball rolling for the Jewish people and helped get them the state of Israel ?

[boris]

"it's not obvious? They are using religion to justify the subjagation other peoples.

This is an interesting claim. Firstly--to my knowledge--there is no such word as 'subjagation'.

Secondly, Israelis allow Arab citizens who are in no way subjugated. There are arabs in the Israeli parliament.

They conquered the so-called "occupied territories" fair and square, after a mass unprovoked by arab nations in 1967. Those who found themselves part of newly-annexed land (which is what they are) could have decided to (a) leave Israel of their own free will; (b) emmigrate to Jordan, which was set aside as a Palestinian state (even there there was no historical people known as 'palestinian'). They chose (c) to hang around and become and breed terrorists.

There is one response to terrorists, and that is simply to kill them all. Not bulldoze their houses. Not allow them to strap dynamite to their children. Simply kill them all; the world will be a better place.

--Boris

[boris]

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[kimosabe31]

"The Arab's are fanatics and are totally warped. But they are not neccessarily anymore warped then the Hitler Youth or the Japs who embraced freedom when they tasted it."

Rodney...when you refer to fanatic arabs, I assume you mean muslims and islamic jihadists. There are at least three points which I believe distinguish these from the Hitler youth: (1) There are 1.2 billion muslims of all ethnic types compared to some 30-40 million germans at the start of WWII. (2) Islam is NOT your religion of love. It is a medieval demonic cult with potentially 1.2 Bil believers many of whom are prepared to die killing non-muslims in exchange for eternity with allah/mohammad in the "big whorehouse in the sky". These do not readily embrace freedom.

Hitler youth were fanatical but did not have the same death wish as this current threat. They readily abandoned their fanaticism as they fought and died. They did not take hostages among their own people. We did not then have a UN and "WEAK KNEED" politicians urging restraint.

The islamic jihadist, on the other hand, merely shrinks back into the shadows or flees into a Christian church or a refugee camp and takes hostages like a coward as he is being persued and annihilated and the world community leaps to his (its) defense. Consequently, (3)this islamic malignancy and its "international community" allies is a new kind of threat which we are not yet accustomed to dealing with. Because of its large numbers and fanaticism, we had better learn fast.

[Andy from Beaverton]

The ninth reason: Possession is nine tenth the law.

The tenth reason: I'm not going to tell ya.

[Anticommie]

7 Reasons Why Israel is Entitled to The Land

Reason 8 (really this only one is sufiicient to justify "palestine land" in Jews possession). When you start the war and lose it, your adversary takes part or all of your land, happened 100's times trough known history. The last exemple is Germany in last century. They started 2 worldwide wars lost both and as a result had theirs teritorry severly trimmed (eastern teritories to Poland, western to France). Nobody today questions this status quo.

So when Arabs started 3 wars with Israel in the last 50 years, were badly beaten in matter of days, Israeli "occupied" teritories belong now to Israel and nobady should question that. This one reason is sufficient for Israel to keep all the land.

[wewereright]

perhaps you can convince others that the P's living in Israel are all treated equally but remember Israel is a country where polls show a large percentage of the dominant Jewish population wants to evict all of the remaining Arabs. You know as well as I that Arabs cannot live in all neighborhoods in Israel and that some are required to have special license plates. I could go on and on - how about building permits being withheld from Arab families that want to expand their houses but why bother - I suppose religion makes it all OK.

[Ajnin]

Israel is able to bring more food out of a desert environment than any other country in the world

I might have to contest this one. I don't know how much food Israel gets out of the desert, but I do know that the Imperial Valley in California provides the entire world with lettuce. Of course it wouldn't get picked without an ample supply of lettuce pickers from Mexico.

[Ajnin]

Israel is a country where polls show a large percentage of the dominant Jewish population wants to evict all of the remaining Arabs.

Interesting. There have been Israeli polls posted on FR that show just the opposite. Perhaps you can give a reference.

[nightdriver]

"Different people have different Religions. That's why we have the "Freedom of Religion" in the United States Constitution. It's funny how all the fundies forget that little fact when it suits their needs."

It's true enough that there are many religions in the world, it's also true that followers of "..imposters such as Mahommet." have been denied protection under the first ammendment "freedom of religion" since 1892. In fact, the ruling also goes on to say that these religions "are to be harassed."

It shakes up a few people to see that, but it looks like it's the law of the land.