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Afghan Warlord's Forces Bombed After Attacking US Troops (B-52)
Ananova ^ | 12-2-2002

Posted on 12/01/2002 7:46:16 PM PST by blam

Afghan warlord's forces bombed after attacking US troops

A B-52 bomber has been called into combat in Afghanistan to protect US special forces battling a local warlord's troops outside their base.

No American soldiers were injured during Sunday's shoot-out in western Afghanistan, but at least 11 Afghans were killed in the fighting.

The battle began when a group of special forces patrolling outside Shindand airbase stopped a group of armed men on the roadside. When the patrol stopped, the Afghans opened fire.

US military spokesman Colonel Roger King said the Americans returned fire, then called for air support while making their escape. The B-52 bomber dropped seven 2,000lb laser-guided bombs.

The last time US forces reported using a B-52 in combat in Afghanistan was a July 1 attack in central Uruzgan province on suspected al-Qaida and Taliban cave and bunker complexes which Afghan authorities say killed 48 civilians.

Sunday's incident occurred as forces loyal to Ammanullah Khan, an ethnic Pashtun commander, and rival Ismail Khan clashed in the region. The fighting has forced thousands of residents to flee homes near the frontline.

Ammanullah Khan accused his longtime adversary's ethnic Tajik forces of ordering a massive attack on Saturday on his positions in Zer-e-Koh district, about 15 miles south of Shindand.

King said the bombing had nothing to do with the factional fighting and US forces "never get involved" in disputes between rival warlords.

Ammanullah Khan said he had informed President Hamid Karzai's government about the fighting and to request that the central government intervene but Mr Karzai has little authority outside Kabul.

The rest of the country is in the hands of regional warlords with private armies at their disposal.

Story filed: 01:54 Monday 2nd December 2002


TOPICS: Front Page News
KEYWORDS: afghan; bombed; troops; us; warlord

1 posted on 12/01/2002 7:46:17 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
The Buff must have been loitering...
2 posted on 12/01/2002 7:49:13 PM PST by freepersup
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To: blam
Good to get more details on this. The first report just said a sniper shot at them. Big difference.

LOL, sure must have surprised those warlords to find out the B-52's are still around.

3 posted on 12/01/2002 7:49:24 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: blam
It must be pretty hard to tell which ones are the good guys, if any.
4 posted on 12/01/2002 7:50:23 PM PST by Cicero
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To: blam
it's very dangerous out there. We are making veterans fast..
5 posted on 12/01/2002 7:53:52 PM PST by Jalapeno
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To: Cicero
The ones who are shooting at us are the bad guys.

That doesn't necessarily mean that there are any good guys.
6 posted on 12/01/2002 7:55:30 PM PST by jdege
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To: blam
Classic. They've been sniping at our patrols and convoys on such a regular, predictable basis that we've started bringing back the B-52's for a little surprise now and again...
7 posted on 12/01/2002 8:01:50 PM PST by Southack
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To: McGavin999
"LOL, sure must have surprised those warlords to find out the B-52's are still around."

I expect so, 14,000 pounds of 'guided' explosives on your troops can't go un-noticed.

" The B-52 bomber dropped seven 2,000lb laser-guided bombs."

8 posted on 12/01/2002 8:02:31 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
It's good that the Buff was in place ready to help.

Now it's time to send a couple more to the headquarters of the punk in charge of the bunch that attacked our soldiers.

We need to make these tinpot warlords understand that there are dire consequences if one of their fools shoots at our guys.

9 posted on 12/01/2002 8:07:24 PM PST by LibKill
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To: blam
One raghead to another:
"First it is the little planes with rockets, then the big plane with bombs. Little plane, big plane. Oh, Allah! I wished I'd gone to Detroit and pumped gas like my brother Amehed!"
10 posted on 12/01/2002 8:08:58 PM PST by Leisler
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To: blam
Blackhawk UP YOURS, Mo'hamn it.

XXX42's craven motivations to waste our best in ill supported police chases must be as clear any lesson learned in Nam.

This B-52 angel is so unPC I want to hug the crew, air and ground too. "Annihilation" should be in the Rules of Engagement; with seven 2,000#ers, it may be.

We all need to visit a VA hospital this Christmas season. I want to thank real men and women in person to let them know that their service and risks are remembered. I hear that calling cards are always appreciated gifts, especially for long-term patients to ring up friends and family. Yup, I'm gonna do it.

11 posted on 12/01/2002 8:11:32 PM PST by SevenDaysInMay
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To: Leisler
the aircraft are still loitering. F-15, F-16, B-52, F/A-18 and A-10.
12 posted on 12/01/2002 8:13:39 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Southack
"Classic. They've been sniping at our patrols and convoys on such a regular, predictable basis that we've started bringing back the B-52's for a little surprise now and again..."

Yup. I think a signal was just sent. They could have used a Warthog or even the C-130 Spectre, huh?

13 posted on 12/01/2002 8:21:57 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
If we only react to individual events when we are actively being fired upon, all initiative goes to the hand of the enemy. A warlord's men fired on US troops. At a minimum that warlord's home and headquarters should be obliterated.
14 posted on 12/01/2002 8:37:43 PM PST by per loin
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To: blam
Thanks for posting this. I saw a thread about it earlier but it wasn't clear how BUFF became involved, nor did it mention the size of the bombs or how many.
16 posted on 12/01/2002 8:49:56 PM PST by Darlin'
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To: freepersup
The Buff must have been loitering...

You sure can't just whistle one up from Diego Garcia, or much of anywhere else. Even if they had them cocked and ready to roll, it would take, I would guess, at least 15 minutes for them to get airborne, then hours to get to the target. How many hours would depend on just where the BUFF was based. This one must have been the designated aircover for that patrol, or at least that relatively small area.

BTW, it's always nice to see the old girl get in her licks. The newest one came off the Boeing line in about 1964 IIRC. They, unlike active duty and many reserve forces KC-135s, are still using the original engines.

17 posted on 12/01/2002 8:51:22 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Cicero
It must be pretty hard to tell which ones are the good guys, if any.

Maybe, but it's easy to tell when they are the bad guys, they are the ones that are shooting at you.

18 posted on 12/01/2002 8:54:51 PM PST by El Gato
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To: per loin
At a minimum that warlord's home and headquarters should be obliterated.

How do you know that they weren't? Who would be taling to the press about if they were? The troops in contact wouldn't have seen a thing. Would have had to use JDAMS or some other non-laser guided bombs, since there probably wouldn't be anyone around to lase the target, although an F-15E, F-16 or F-18 with the proper pod (LANTIRN,LITNING, etc)could lase the target(s) for the BUFFS, or they could just do it themselves and dispense with the BUFF.

19 posted on 12/01/2002 9:03:48 PM PST by El Gato
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To: El Gato
How do you know that they weren't? Who would be taling to the press about if they were?

Are you kidding. Islamics cry "massacre" when the sound of our planes frighten their goats.

20 posted on 12/01/2002 9:08:36 PM PST by per loin
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To: blam
Seven 2,000#ers would tend to get your attention I think.
21 posted on 12/01/2002 10:56:32 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: per loin
If we only react to individual events when we are actively being fired upon, all initiative goes to the hand of the enemy. A warlord's men fired on US troops. At a minimum that warlord's home and headquarters should be obliterated.

And now you know why Israel is taking out the Islama-kazi houses after the fact. There is a price to pay killing the good guys...

22 posted on 12/02/2002 2:07:35 AM PST by American in Israel
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To: per loin
Good one! So true.
23 posted on 12/02/2002 2:08:53 AM PST by American in Israel
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To: blam
Afghan Warlord's Forces Bombed After Attacking US Troops (B-52)

Lesson: Don't do that.

24 posted on 12/02/2002 8:10:03 AM PST by Forgiven_Sinner
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