To: Jacob Kell
European anti-Semitism is not new, by any means. Long before the Third Reich, various pogroms were carried out in Russia (under the Czars), in France, in Poland, in Austria-Hungary, and even in the compartively enlightened British Isles. Jews were a separatist group, with a largely closed culture, speaking a tongue that was vaguely Germanic, but so distinctly accented as to be incomprehensible to their non-Jewish neighbors. Then, as now, anyone who is too radically different was despised and harassed, and denied access to most of the amenities of the community. Pacifist by nature and upbringing, few Jews got involved in the broader society of their day, and those that did, were almost invariably committed to atheism and anarchy, smashing all the old ways and calling for bloody reform. The Jews who did not indulge in reckless rhetoric, worked their way up the ladder in civil service, in banking, and in business to what appeared to be modest successes, but in fact they often had leverage on much more power than was obvious. By itself, this was not necessarily bad. They were in a position to do a great deal for their community of co-religionists, and lifted many more out of the ghettos to which they had been confined for centuries. But worse than the powerless Jew was the uppity Jew, and that was and is in large part what fueled the hostility against the Jews during the dark night of the Third Reich, and what is going on in Europe today.
To: alloysteel
But worse than the powerless Jew was the uppity Jew, and that was and is in large part what fueled the hostility against the Jews during the dark night of the Third Reich, and what is going on in Europe today.In other words, Jews have brought it upon themselves.
Never mind that your account is hostorically inapt and pathetically incorrect. But do you even hear yourself speak, what you actually say?
6 posted on
12/03/2002 11:34:24 AM PST by
TopQuark
To: alloysteel
Interesting historical theory, the uppity Jew fueled the Third Reich, and antisemitism in Europe? I suppose those uppity Jews fuel Islamic terror as well.
7 posted on
12/03/2002 12:10:12 PM PST by
SJackson
To: alloysteel
. Jews were a separatist group, with a largely closed culture, speaking a tongue that was vaguely Germanic, but so distinctly accented as to be incomprehensible to their non-Jewish neighbors. Yiddish isn't vaguely Germanic, it's a dialect of German.
To: alloysteel; TopQuark
But worse than the powerless Jew was the uppity Jew, and that was and is in large part what fueled the hostility against the Jews during the dark night of the Third Reich, and what is going on in Europe today. I beg to differ. Worse than the "uppity Jew" were the moronic pigs who thought up this diatribe to justify murder and mayhem.
I think it is time for me to buy a gun. Maybe two.
15 posted on
12/03/2002 1:44:35 PM PST by
Nachum
To: alloysteel
European anti-Semitism is not new, by any means. Judging by your presence here, American anti-Semitism is also well-preserved.
16 posted on
12/03/2002 2:01:06 PM PST by
TopQuark
To: alloysteel
Reasonable take on Jews in Europe.
17 posted on
12/03/2002 2:10:44 PM PST by
dennisw
To: alloysteel
European anti-Semitism is not new, by any means. [...] But worse than the powerless Jew was the uppity Jew, and that was and is in large part what fueled the hostility against the Jews during the dark night of the Third Reich, and what is going on in Europe today.
Apparently, American anti-Semitism hasn't been abolished either...
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