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Leading Sunni and Other Sheikhs Herald the Coming Conquest of Rome (We Will Control the Vatican)
MEMRI ^ | 12-06-02

Posted on 12/05/2002 7:18:10 PM PST by SJackson

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1 posted on 12/05/2002 7:18:10 PM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson
"Islam will Return to Europe as a Conqueror"

The only way barbaric muslim primitives are returning to Europe are as busboys, gardeners, and toilet cleaners.

2 posted on 12/05/2002 7:21:03 PM PST by friendly
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In their dreams. Though I do hear there are more mosques than churches in parts of Europe right now so this Mullah could well be right. It is Islam's Second Coming. They were stopped at the gates of Vienna in 1683 but the irony of history has taught them immigration can do for them what conquest through armies couldn't.
4 posted on 12/05/2002 7:23:32 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
A Continent the color of Green.
5 posted on 12/05/2002 7:24:00 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: SJackson; monkeyshine; ipaq2000; Lent; veronica; Sabramerican; beowolf; Nachum; BenF; angelo; ...
Pingggggg!

Watch out Your Holiness. Now the Musli are eyeing the Vatican


6 posted on 12/05/2002 7:24:29 PM PST by dennisw
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To: SJackson
BTTT. Great Article. I just love it when the moojies tell the truth about themselves.
7 posted on 12/05/2002 7:24:46 PM PST by thatdewd
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To: SJackson
We will control the land of the Vatican; we will control Rome and introduce Islam in it

Well, there goes the Vatican Museum, repository of Western art....the muslim creeps don't believe in glorifying the human body, thus no paintings or statues of people, saints, or even angels. Say goodbye to the Cistine Chapel and other good things....or give the muslims a quick and unceremonious boot in their collective disembodies kiesters.

8 posted on 12/05/2002 7:26:53 PM PST by PoisedWoman
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In one of my previous programs, I said that I think that this conquest would not be by the sword or armies, but by preaching and ideology. Europe will see that it suffers from materialistic culture, and will seek an alternative, it will seek a way out, it will seek a lifeboat. It will find no lifesaver but the message of Islam the message of the muezzin who gives it religion but does not deny it this world, brings it to Heaven, but does not uproot it from Earth. Allah willing, Islam will return to Europe and the Europeans will convert to Islam. Then they themselves will be able to be the ones to disseminate Islam in the world, more than we ancient Muslims. This is within Allah's capabilities."

Pardon me for being naive, but why is this so offensive? Christian missionaries proslytize all over the world, and we all defend their right to do so. This particular islamic cleric is advocating the peaceful conversion of Europe. I see nothing immoral or alarming in that.

Now, to the extent he or others advocate the violent conquest of Europe, that's an entirely different matter. But that's not what this article says.

9 posted on 12/05/2002 7:30:13 PM PST by XJarhead
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To: friendly
Soon those may be the only jobs in Europe...
10 posted on 12/05/2002 7:30:35 PM PST by DB
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To: PoisedWoman
...the muslim creeps don't believe in glorifying the human body, thus no paintings or statues...

Good point. Most people don't realise that's why all those greek statues in the museums don't have noses. The muslims defaced most of them the last time they tried to enslave the world. Now that they have grenades and rocket launchers, they won't just smash the noses off, they'll do like the taliban did to that statue of Buddha...KABLAAAM!!!

11 posted on 12/05/2002 7:31:42 PM PST by thatdewd
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To: SJackson
By 2045, Austria and France will be majority Moslem.
12 posted on 12/05/2002 7:32:10 PM PST by breakem
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Alouette; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
13 posted on 12/05/2002 7:32:52 PM PST by SJackson
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To: BrowningBAR
Are we serious?

No.

14 posted on 12/05/2002 7:33:46 PM PST by SJackson
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Al Mahdi, Al Mahdi, Al Mahdi....
15 posted on 12/05/2002 7:34:53 PM PST by Bosco
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Yes, the Christians, who carve crosses on the breasts of the Muslims in Kosovo – and before then in Bosnia, and before then in many places in the world – will yet pay us the Jiziya [poll tax paid by non-Muslims under Muslim rule], in humiliation, or they will convert to Islam..."(6)

Don't forget Option 3, Muhammad: Or we'll carve a cross in your ass.

Charles Martel, Jan Sobieski, Don John of Austria -- do these names ring a bell?

16 posted on 12/05/2002 7:36:39 PM PST by B-Chan
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To: BrowningBAR
I hope to God we'll fight before it's too late. More people I know are becoming more and more convinced that Islam is truly a barbaric, evil religion.
17 posted on 12/05/2002 7:37:17 PM PST by Sparta
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To: XJarhead
There is only ONE true religions, Christianity. We will conquer Islam and destory it.
18 posted on 12/05/2002 7:46:58 PM PST by CreekerFreeper
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To: XJarhead
There is only ONE true religion, Christianity. We will conquer Islam and destory it.
19 posted on 12/05/2002 7:47:06 PM PST by CreekerFreeper
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From Pope Urban II, who summoned the first Crusade with his speech at the Council of Clermont in 1095:

In the year of our Lord's Incarnation one thousand and ninety-five, a great council was celebrated within the bounds of Gaul, in Auvergne, in the city which is called Clermont. Over this Pope Urban II presided, with the Roman bishops and cardinals. This council was a famous one on account of the concourse of both French and German bishops, and of princes as well. Having arranged the matters relating to the Church, the lord pope went forth into a certain spacious plain, for no building was large enough to hold all the people. The pope-then, with sweet and persuasive eloquence, addressed those present in words something like the following, saying:

"Oh, race of Franks, race from across the mountains, race beloved and chosen by God, - as is clear from many of your works,- set apart from all other nations by the situation of your country as well as by your Catholic faith and the honor which you render to the holy Church: to you our discourse is addressed, and for you our exhortations are intended. We wish you to know what a grievous cause has led us to your country, for it is the imminent peril threatening you and all the faithful which has brought us hither.

From the confines of Jerusalem and from the city of Constantinople a grievous report has gone forth and has -repeatedly been brought to our ears; namely, that a race from the kingdom of the Persians, an accursed race, a race wholly alienated from God, `a generation that set not their heart aright and whose spirit was not steadfast with God,' violently invaded the lands of those Christians and has depopulated them by pillage and fire. They have led away ap art of the captives into their own country, and a part have they have killed by cruel tortures. They have either destroyed the churches of God or appropriated them for the rites of their own religion. They destroy the altars, after having defiled them with their uncleanness....The kingdom of the Greeks is now dismembered by them and has been deprived of territory so vast in extent that it could be traversed in two months' time.

"On whom, therefore, is the labor of avenging these wrongs and of recovering this territory incumbent, if not upon you, you upon whom, above all other nations, God has conferred remarkable glory in arms, great courage, bodily activity, and strength to humble the heads of those who resist you ? Let the deeds of your ancestors encourage you and incite your minds to manly achievements:-the greatness of King Charlemagne, and of his son Louis, and of your other monarchs, who have destroyed the kingdoms of the Turks and have extended the sway of Church over lands previously possessed by the pagan. Let the holy sepulcher of our Lord and Saviour, which is possessed by unclean nations, especially arouse you, and the holy places which are now treated, with ignominy and irreverently polluted with the filth of the unclean. Oh, most valiant soldiers and descendants of invincible ancestors, do not degenerate; our progenitors., but recall the valor of your progenitors.

"But if you are hindered by love of children, parents, or of wife, remember what the Lord says in the Gospel, `He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me', 'Every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.' Let none of your possessions retain you, nor solicitude for you, family affairs. For this land which you inhabit, shut in on all sides by the seas and surrounded by the mountain peaks, is too narrow for your large population; nor does it abound in wealth; and it furnishes scarcely food enough for its cultivators. Hence it is that you murder and devour one another, that you wage war, and that very many among you perish in intestine strife.'

"Let those who have formerly been accustomed to contend wickedly in private warfare against the faithful fight against the infidel, and bring to a victorious end the war which ought already to have been begun. Let those who have hitherto been robbers now become soldiers. Let those who have formerly contended against their brothers and relatives now fight against the barbarians as they ought. Let those who have formerly been mercenaries at low wages now gain eternal rewards. Let those who have been exhausting themselves to the detriment both of body and soul now strive for a twofold reward"

"Let hatred therefore depart from among you, let your quarrels end, let wars cease, and let all dissensions and controversies slumber. Enter upon the road to the Holy Sepulcher-, wrest that land from the wicked race, and subject it to yourselves. That land which, as the Scripture says, `floweth with milk and honey' was given by God into the power of the children of Israel. Jerusalem is the center of the earth ; the land is fruitful above all others, like another paradise of delights. This spot the Redeemer of mankind has made illustrious by his advent, has beautified by his sojourn, has consecrated by his passion, has redeemed by his death, has glorified by his burial.

"This royal city, however, situated at the center of the earth, is now held captive by the enemies of Christ and is subjected, by those who do not know God, to the worship the heathen. She seeks, therefore, and desires to be liberated and ceases not to implore you to come to her aid. From you especially she asks succor, because as we have already said, God has conferred upon you above all other nations great glory in arms. Accordingly, undertake this journey eagerly for the remission of your sins, with the assurance of the reward of imperishable glory in the kingdon of heaven.."

When Pope Urban had urbanely said thes and very similar things, he so centered in one purpose the desires all who were present that all cried out, " It is the will of God! I It is the. will of God 1 " When the venerable Roman pontiff heard that, with eyes uplifted to heaven, he gave thanks to God and, commanding silence with his hand, said:

"Most beloved brethren, today is manifest in you what the Lord says in the Gospel, `Where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them'; for unless God had been present in your spirits, all of you would not have uttered the same cry; since, although the cry issued from numerous mouths, yet the origin of the cry as one. Therefore I say to you that God, who implanted is in your breasts, has drawn it forth from you. Let that then be your war cry in combats, because it is given to you by God. When an armed attack is made upon the enemy, this one cry be raised by all the soldiers of God: 'It is the will of God! It is the will of God!' [Deus vult! Deus Vult!]

"And we neither command nor advise that the old or those incapable of bearing arms, undertake this journey. Nor ought women to set out at all without their husbands, or brother, or legal guardians. For such are more of a hindrance than aid, more of a burden than an advantage. Let the rich aid the needy and according to their wealth let them take with them experienced soldiers. The priests and other clerks, whether secular or regulars are not to go without the consent of their bishop; for this journey would profit them nothing if they went without permission. Also, it is not fitting that laymen should enter upon the pilgrimage without the blessing of their priests.

"Whoever, therefore, shall determine upon this holy pilgrimage, and shall make his vow to God to that effect, and shall offer himself to him for sacrifice, as a living victim, holy and acceptable to God, shall wear the sign of the cross of the Lord on his forehead or on his breast. When, indeed, he shall return from his journey, having fulfilled his vow, let him place the cross on his back between his shoulders. Thus shall ye, indeed, by this twofold action, fulfill the precept of the Lord, as lie commands in the Gospel, 'he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me."'

20 posted on 12/05/2002 7:47:17 PM PST by Loyalist
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