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Leading Sunni and Other Sheikhs Herald the Coming Conquest of Rome (We Will Control the Vatican)
MEMRI ^ | 12-06-02

Posted on 12/05/2002 7:18:10 PM PST by SJackson

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To: Sparta
I hope to God we'll fight before it's too late. More people I know are becoming more and more convinced that Islam is truly a barbaric, evil religion.

One or two more 9/11-level attacks and the citizens of many countries will probably form vigilante groups and take the law into their own hands. Thankfully I live in an area almost completely devoid of Muslims, so I don't ever have to worry about half my town being burned to the ground in the process.

41 posted on 12/05/2002 10:49:04 PM PST by Timesink
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To: Aliska
Well, I have one thought:

These monsters would rape, mutilate, and make sexual slaves of every Christian girl they could get their hands on. They would enslave every Christian boy they could get their hands on. They would use every trick in the book to lead these children away from Christ and into their false religion.

Our Lord had some things to say about caring for little children and not letting them be harmed or misled by evildoers.

I don't think that I can find Biblical warrant for going out of my way to harm Muslim children, women, or even men who are just quietly going about their daily lives. But I do think that there is good Biblical warrant for standing up, and even putting our lives on the line, against those Muslims who are actively engaged in their jihad against us. It isn't an issue of me turning the other cheek because my cheek is being struck, but rather of not looking the other way while my brother or sister or child in Christ is being struck.

42 posted on 12/05/2002 10:51:16 PM PST by Stefan Stackhouse
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To: breakem
By 2045, Austria and France will be majority Moslem.

By 2045, there will be no Islam - or 80% of the world's population will be gone.

43 posted on 12/06/2002 1:47:46 AM PST by Cachelot
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To: BrowningBAR
Are we serious?

Watching Bush on TV tell the world how the Muslims are such peace loving people, I would say it is a lost cause.

People STILL dont get it.

44 posted on 12/06/2002 1:58:08 AM PST by expatguy
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To: Salvation
Thank you & bump to read later....
45 posted on 12/06/2002 3:13:52 AM PST by firewalk
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To: Loyalist
Bump for later
46 posted on 12/06/2002 3:45:55 AM PST by RaceBannon
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To: friendly
The only way barbaric muslim primitives are returning to Europe are as busboys, gardeners, and toilet cleaners.

That's how it starts. It's a very good beginning for them. It's a foot in the door. Don't you see that?

47 posted on 12/06/2002 3:50:54 AM PST by Consort
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To: B-Chan
Perfect graphic. Perfect sentiment.
48 posted on 12/06/2002 4:30:37 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Aliska
You know, we in the western world have been sleepwalking.

Very true. I don't know how it's going to end (well, I don't know the specifics, but I trust that it will end as the Bible and the Church teach), but I think we've been living in a fool's paradise. Our ignorance of history has led us to forget that as recently as the 19th and early 20th century, Islam was attacking various parts of southern Europe and the Mediterranean.

As for Islamic proseltysing, yes, of course, they have the right to preach and attempt to sway people to their beliefs. But that's not the way Islam works; it began with forced conversions, and it has extended itself with forced conversions, and it does not look as if its historical pattern is about to change.

49 posted on 12/06/2002 4:38:24 AM PST by livius
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To: SJackson
[Christians] will yet pay us the Jiziya [poll tax paid by non-Muslims under Muslim rule], in humiliation, or they will convert to Islam..."(6)

Surah 9:29

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." 

It's Islam stupid.™
50 posted on 12/06/2002 5:10:57 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: *Catholic_list
Good, old-fashioned, rivers-of-blood-in-the-streets crusade, anyone?
51 posted on 12/06/2002 5:13:40 AM PST by Petronski
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To: CreekerFreeper
There is only ONE true religion, Christianity. We will conquer Islam and destory it.

Congratulations -- you've just put yourself on the same footing as the people you condemn. I suppose you're going after all the Hindus, Jews, and Buddhists at some point too. Any other parts of the Constitution you care to ignore?

52 posted on 12/06/2002 5:13:41 AM PST by XJarhead
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To: xJones
Do they really? Have you tried being a Christian in Sudan, Pakistan , or Indonesia lately? They're being murdered by Muslims. How about applying for a missionary job of any faith but the Wahibbi version of Islam in Saudi Arabia? Hint, they don't let them in and Sudanese Christians are enslaved by Muslim nothern Sudanese. Try a little reading.

But we still advocate that those missionaries be given that right, and Christian missionaries do operate in relative peace in many other parts of the world. It's how the religion spread in the first place. But you're apparently claiming that peaceful prosletyzing should be limited to Christianity alone.

53 posted on 12/06/2002 5:17:15 AM PST by XJarhead
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To: XJarhead
This particular islamic cleric is advocating the peaceful conversion of Europe. I see nothing immoral or alarming in that.

Don't mistake Mohammadenism for Christianity.

In the article "this particular cleric" states that, "[Christians] will yet pay us the Jiziya [poll tax paid by non-Muslims under Muslim rule], in humiliation, or they will convert to Islam..."

This is straight out of the Koran:

Surah 9:29

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

From the Catholic Encyclopedia entry under Mohammed and Mohammedanism:

In matters political Islam is a system of despotism at home and aggression abroad. The Prophet commanded absolute submission to the imâm. In no case was the sword to be raised against him. The rights of non-Moslem subjects are of the vaguest and most limited kind, and a religious war is a sacred duty whenever there is a chance of success against the "Infidel". Medieval and modern Mohammedan, especially Turkish, persecutions of both Jews and Christians are perhaps the best illustration of this fanatical religious and political spirit.

54 posted on 12/06/2002 5:21:05 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: expatguy
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55 posted on 12/06/2002 5:28:56 AM PST by Catholicguy
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To: Loyalist
"Whoever, therefore, shall determine upon this holy pilgrimage, and shall make his vow to God to that effect, and shall offer himself to him for sacrifice, as a living victim, holy and acceptable to God, shall wear the sign of the cross of the Lord on his forehead or on his breast.

The Catholic Church has been bashed for centuries regarding Her role in the Crusades. It's about time the Church got some credit for them. It was the Catholic kingdoms that drove the Mohammedans out of Europe.

56 posted on 12/06/2002 5:29:06 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: XJarhead
But you're apparently claiming that peaceful prosletyzing should be limited to Christianity alone.

How you arrived at that conclusion is beyond me.

57 posted on 12/06/2002 5:32:34 AM PST by xJones
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To: SJackson
Maybe those Swiss sentries should be rearmed with sniper rifles.
58 posted on 12/06/2002 5:34:17 AM PST by Cvengr
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To: expatguy
Watching Bush on TV tell the world how the Muslims are such peace loving people, I would say it is a lost cause.

It's nauseating. I believe that it will take two more 9/11 equivalents to wake up our society. OBL may actually be doing us a favor.

59 posted on 12/06/2002 5:35:15 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: Aliska
Good point.

Perhaps the present conflict in Iraq is to be molded as an unrigheous act to unbelievers, used to rally a worldwide assault on Christianity, coincident with promoting a personal subdermal ID system to plant a mark,

those who rebel are rounded up as 'fundamentalists' and then executed with a nuke in concentration camps, producing a Rapture,

where similar to Shadrach, Mishach and Abendigo, the souls of Christians are met in the air, concurrently beginning a 7 yr period of peaceful covenant with Israel by those powers who orchestrated an antiChristian campaign,

only to have the voice of the antichrist transmitted into each body brain via the subdermal chip to commit the blasphemy of blasphemies,

a demon invasion prepared in advance by the current UFO/alien/SciFi psyops to accept even the most bizarre events as natural by those lusting for power to control the masses, and then followed by the vengeance of the Lord in a Second Coming.

The same devices could then be used to rewrite the hearts and minds with the Law ushering in a Millenium of righteous rule.

Of course datesetters are fools, so the day of trouble might not happen for another 2000 years.
60 posted on 12/06/2002 5:47:24 AM PST by Cvengr
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