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Republicans Outflanked Themselves in Louisiana
CapitolHillBlue.com ^ | 12/9/02 | LEE HOCKSTADER & ADAM NOSSITER

Posted on 12/09/2002 1:29:20 PM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!

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To: Douglas
Read my comments above. Don't lose any sleep worrying about some stupid throwaway line made by Trent Lott, and its effect two years from now.

Most voters--never mind the type that vote Dim--would need elaborate explanations as to exactly who Trent Lott and Strom Thurmond are.

41 posted on 12/09/2002 2:51:23 PM PST by Illbay
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To: Illbay
Who cares...blacks already vote 90-95%% for the RATS.......

so what diff will it make...???
42 posted on 12/09/2002 2:51:44 PM PST by KQQL
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To: Dan Day; RonF
That's not "cheating," that's lying. In politics, the former is only bad SOME of the time. The latter is ALWAYS acceptable.
43 posted on 12/09/2002 2:54:20 PM PST by Illbay
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To: KQQL
Well, it does make a difference if they show up to vote, vs. staying home.

I just don't think most people have any inkling of what the Dems are screaming about, and two years from now it'll be forgotten anyway.

Ho-hum.

44 posted on 12/09/2002 2:58:26 PM PST by Illbay
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To: KQQL
2) Sugar Thing ..Was a big ISsue and the negative ads went un-answered.........Mary said W screwed LA with Steel Tarrifs and now he will Screw LA with Mexcian Sugar,,, And White voters believed Mary)

I'll give you this one. The Bush we all know and love. 43 has also screwed his pooch among California conservatives in 2004 over another of his brilliant domestic policies .. open boarders.

I'll bet 43 is glad there's an electoral college.

45 posted on 12/09/2002 3:03:57 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Dan Day
No, I missed the part where it was proved that she was wrong. Not that I have any knowledge one way or another. But I take neither her assertions nor the Administration's denials for granted.
46 posted on 12/09/2002 3:04:37 PM PST by RonF
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To: KQQL

I don't know if there these MIAs voted in the Senate race or not until it's looked at on a precinct by precinct basis. But the Statewide Senate vote was only 319 voters larger than the primary vote. So those MIAs in the 5th CD either didn't vote at all or voted in some portion for the Senate race and left the CD race blank. My gut feeling is that they didn't show up period.... Thus the make up voters were from somewhere else within the state. Example, Orleans Parish had only a 6,200 vote increase in turnout this time over the primary. If they were conservative Republicans and didn't show then that is where the race was lost, imo.

47 posted on 12/09/2002 3:05:47 PM PST by deport
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
Am I missing the part of this article that says that W J Clinton did not show up in Leeezyanna so this HELPED the democrats!

If you spend sometime in a news career covering sports and then transition to political news, it gives you a unique perspective.

There are many similarities.

For example you will note in sport that a team will come up with a game plan that works in the first half. Then at half time the other team makes adjustments. And in the second half does a lot better. This year's senate election had a half time. It happens a lot in sports. We just saw it happen in elections.

It is obvious the Democrats made adjustments. It is also logical that the team that was wining team was winning earlier did not change tactics and the losing team did.

The tactic changes are obvious in both races this year. They were obvious if we start the game in 2000. In 2000 Clinton was kept on the sidelines and Gore went left. They even booed boy scouts at the Democratic convention and even courted naderites. Clinton was not welcome anywhere in 2000 and Bush won close one.

So this time the Bush camp went to a much harder game in the Senate races. Candidates that can win and successful tactics of negative spots and positive candidates won the senate back. For the Democrats the tactical change was great. Clinton and Gore were everywhere to take on Bush in the rematch. Clinton and Gore got their butts knocked on the floor by Dubya and company on November 5. Then with a 30 day time out the Democrats changed strategy again. In Louisiana there was no Clinton, no Gore, no Daschle, no more. It was the song Dubya when he is right and us only when he is wrong that Landrieu sang. Landrieu ran on I will do what is right regardless of party. It was a new centrist Democratic tactic.... They were the new kinder Gentler Democrats. No Dammit Daschle Hammit at all. ONe this is your last campaign sneaked out and that was all.

What that means is the democrats now have an example of how to win. IT IS CENTER CENTER CENTER. Did I mention Center? It was the white vote that elected Landriew. Terrell needed 66 percent of the white vote. She did not get it.

So what does this mean for 2004. Well not much. To get the Democratic nomination the Candidate will have to go to the left. It will be the left being left all over the TV. It will be Democrat trashing Democrat for not being left enough. How well will Al Sharpton run? Could the Sharper Al win Michigan and South Carolina? Could the convention be a real convention with no Democrat having it sewn up by the convention? Look at the 2004 start. It is possible that Gephardt could win Iowa. Kerry might win New Hampshire and Sharpton could win South Carolina and Michigan... holy Toledo... Say What Bat Man?

No matter what happens the candidate will have a leftist image. So they can only move a little toward the center in the campaign. And will the magic presence of Al Sharpton help the Democrats in the fall of 2004.

I don't think it looks all that good for the Democrats.

When a Democrat runs on the platform that they vote with President Bush 75 percent of the time and demands that all name Democrat names stay away, that says a lot.

To win Landrieu had to run as a DINO

Edwards can play DINO but Sharpton will beat him in South Carolina.

Call it Strom Thurman's Revenge


48 posted on 12/09/2002 3:12:01 PM PST by Common Tator
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
http://www.electionline.org/electionlinetoday.jsp
Zillions of links to vote fraud related news in many states....

49 posted on 12/09/2002 3:30:27 PM PST by backhoe
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To: Gunslingr3; FLdeputy
Landrieu declared, "The soul of our party is the African American community"

Guess what I'm thinking ping.

51 posted on 12/09/2002 3:39:05 PM PST by Jonathon Spectre
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To: hchutch
Ah, but Hutch, what YOU forget is that the Dems are ALREADY getting 90% of the 10% of the vote that is black, and thus can't GET any more.

I don't care what Lott said or what Clinton does. Blacks will not elect another president. Ever. Hispanics will decide many races, but not blacks, as their numbers and political flexibility continues to plummet.

53 posted on 12/09/2002 3:41:47 PM PST by LS
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To: Douglas
Lott is not speaker.

I don't like him, and he should step down as MAJORITY LEADER, but not for this. He should have stepped down a long time ago for failing to promote more conservative policies effectively.

54 posted on 12/09/2002 3:43:12 PM PST by LS
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To: RonF
For Landrieu, I have 1996 as exhibit A that she won by corrupted votes; for exhibit B, I have SD; for exhibit C I have the Torch; for exhibit C I have St. Louis in 2000 where the polls stayed open longer for . . . . Do I need go on?
55 posted on 12/09/2002 3:45:32 PM PST by LS
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To: Go Dub Go
"It just got out of control," said Silas Lee, a sociologist at Xavier University in New Orleans. "African American voters wanted a more positive message."

You mean like the NAACP sponsored ad depicting Dubya dragging a black man to his death behind a pick-up truck?

The NAACP ad mentioned was used in the 2000 election. Is it your opinion that this was a "positive message" in the mind of the African American voter?

56 posted on 12/09/2002 3:58:02 PM PST by What Is Ain't
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To: Illbay
Nope.
57 posted on 12/09/2002 4:02:45 PM PST by genefromjersey
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To: Go Dub Go
For example, there was a big outrage here last week about Mary Landrieu giving out $10 gift cards to servicemen. There was a huge outcry about her buying votes and it was illegal, etc. But the Republicans were also giving out the exact same $10 gift cards to servicemen, and the article posted even said that Repubicans were giving out the $10 cards. But it was OK when they did it.

What Double Standard? Where was it documented that the Republicans also gave out gift cards to servicemen? you are just making that up to defend democrats for stealing an election.

58 posted on 12/09/2002 4:12:13 PM PST by Station 51
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
I'd credit John Breaux. He's got to be the most affable and reasonable sounding man in the Senate.

Either that or it's just that Louisana is whacked. This is the state, after all, that put an end to my man Phil Gramm's Prez bid by giving it to Pat Buchannan.

I will never, ever, forgive Louisana Republicans for that.

So, disappointments out of Louisana are something I expect. Isn't this the same place Huey Long came from?
59 posted on 12/09/2002 4:35:08 PM PST by Rate_Determining_Step
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