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How To Curtail the Proliferation Of Pornography
Vanity | 12/10/02 | Humanae Vitae

Posted on 12/10/2002 11:12:51 AM PST by HumanaeVitae

Sorry for the vanity here folks, but I promise this should be worthwhile.

I read through both of the "Shane's World" threads about the young perverts coming to college campuses to film sex acts etc...O'Reilly has been all over the story.

One of the young lechers who works for the porn company note that "there was a market for college pornography". True, I'm sure.

Fact is, there's a huge market for pornography, in the billions. Although libertarians on FR have no problem with a robust U.S. pornography industry, social conservatives and Christians (like myself) have a huge problem with porn. For instance, porn:

(1) Degrades women; (2) Appeals to the lowest instincts that men have; (3) Is a contributing factor to many (if not most) rapes and other sex crimes; (4) At its worst exploits children; (5) Makes this country look like a bunch of immoral perverts and lowers the impression of the U.S. around the world.

I firmly believe that many Muslims want the freedom and prosperity that capitalism provides, but they don't want their culture deluged with immoral garbage. I'm no fan of Islam, but on this issue they have a point.

The problem, of course, is that pornography exists in a constitutional "gray area". There are federal obscenity laws on the books, but they are scarcely enforced. Society at large knows that pornography isn't a good thing, yet it's seemingly everwhere. It theoretically could be banned, but as Ann Coulter has noted, that would bring an immediate challenge from the entire Harvard University Law School faculty. And their challenge would be something along the lines of the right to "free expression" etc.

So, thinking about the quote that "college pornography has a large market", I began to think: well, what if there wasn't a market? Wishful thinking of course; people still seem to want porno.

But what if you couldn't make any money on it?

Banning pornography, especially internet pornography, would be constitutionally possible (especially if more Scalia-type SCOTUS justices are confirmed), but it would be almost impossible to enforce a ban. So I suggest the following:

Make it illegal not to make pornography, but to sell it.

Make it illegal for credit card companies to process charges from internet porno sites. How do you know which sites are doing pornograpy? Easy. They're the ones making all the money. Let consumers know that if they want porno, it's free; and if someone tries to charge them for it, then make it easy to "charge back" on their credit cards.

So, no violation of free expression, no prying into peoples homes to see what they're reading. Look at all the porno you want. Just don't try to sell it. And all the lawyers for the pornographers can't scream "censorship" or "artistic expression". Nothing is being censored.

Do that, and I give it a year before all the major and most of the minor porno shops are starved out of business.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: logicbedamned; pornography
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Cheers...
1 posted on 12/10/2002 11:12:51 AM PST by HumanaeVitae
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To: HumanaeVitae
Make it illegal not to make pornography, but to sell it.

Show me where it says in the Constitution that the government is allowed to do this. You would even have a difficult time showing states have a right to regulate porn, especially Internet porn.

What's worse: Smut, or out-of-control government?

2 posted on 12/10/2002 11:15:36 AM PST by eno_
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To: HumanaeVitae
One thing that you cannot deny, Europe is much more open with sex, as far as public programming ext, while America is the biggest consumer of XXX and illegal pr0n.

Perhaps banning it would make it even worse.

Sorry, but that will NEVER happen. First off, it makes WAAAAAY to much money. Secondly, Americans will never give it up. The underground market would bust wide open. There would not be near enough resources to prosecute all the violators.

It's a pipedream.
3 posted on 12/10/2002 11:17:40 AM PST by Texaggie79
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To: HumanaeVitae
"(like myself) have a huge problem with porn"

Stop watching it then, solve your problem, and don't go so blind that you can't see your hairy palms.
4 posted on 12/10/2002 11:18:41 AM PST by APBaer
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To: eno_
Early on in our Republic, prurient material was banned in every state. So were homosexual acts, and so on. In fact, most of the laws banning sodomy didn't even refer to "sodomy", but something along the lines of "unspeakable acts" or "perversion" etc.

And I believe Internet commerce crosses state lines...

5 posted on 12/10/2002 11:19:29 AM PST by HumanaeVitae
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To: HumanaeVitae
"Let consumers know that if they want porno, it's free;" Actually, you might have something there. The socialist take on pr0n. Pr0n is a RIGHT. Just like a lawyer. It should be FREE if we can't afford it!!!!
6 posted on 12/10/2002 11:20:12 AM PST by Texaggie79
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To: APBaer
I don't watch it...but most child molesters do. Unfortunately, libertarians never see the link between porno and sex crimes...
7 posted on 12/10/2002 11:20:58 AM PST by HumanaeVitae
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To: HumanaeVitae
I wonder why some people are hung up on whether other adults are looking at porn. Methinks some busybodies have far too much time on their hands and enjoy getting into other peoples' business.
8 posted on 12/10/2002 11:22:16 AM PST by Junior
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To: HumanaeVitae
I'm no fan of Islam, but on this issue they have a point.

Burkas for everyone!


9 posted on 12/10/2002 11:22:35 AM PST by jlogajan
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To: HumanaeVitae
Appeals to the lowest instincts that men man (as in men and women) has.
10 posted on 12/10/2002 11:22:37 AM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: eno_
"What's worse: Smut, or out-of-control government?"

Actually, I believe that loss of social virtue leads to out of control government. Look at Europe.

11 posted on 12/10/2002 11:22:47 AM PST by HumanaeVitae
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To: HumanaeVitae
Have you ever been out of the country? Barring the Middle East, the US has got to be one of the most sexually constipated countries around the globe.
12 posted on 12/10/2002 11:23:46 AM PST by oldcomputerguy
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To: HumanaeVitae
libertarians never see the link between porno and sex crimes

Actually, there is a stronger link between guns and gun crime.

Actually, there is a stronger link between being male and being a murderer.

13 posted on 12/10/2002 11:23:55 AM PST by jlogajan
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To: HumanaeVitae
Lets pass a constitutional ammendment to ban porn, and alcohol. I'm sure it will work.
14 posted on 12/10/2002 11:24:14 AM PST by glorgau
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To: HumanaeVitae
Even if porn were Free, I think there would be PLENTY of it available. Some people just like to expose themselves.
15 posted on 12/10/2002 11:24:16 AM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: HumanaeVitae
If it takes GOVERNMENT to instill morality, it is a lost cause anyways.
16 posted on 12/10/2002 11:24:26 AM PST by Texaggie79
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To: EricOKC
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17 posted on 12/10/2002 11:24:37 AM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: HumanaeVitae
It won't work for any number of reasons, not the least of which is that pictures of naked people having sex are available without charge all over the place.

I also think that some of things you said about it are fantasy. Having said that, please do not construe anything I have said to be a defense of so-called pornography.

18 posted on 12/10/2002 11:25:10 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: eno_
I'll go with b, out of control government.
19 posted on 12/10/2002 11:25:34 AM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: HumanaeVitae
I firmly believe that many Muslims want the freedom and prosperity that capitalism provides, but they don't want their culture deluged with immoral garbage. I'm no fan of Islam, but on this issue they have a point.

So you want freedom, without all that annoying liberty. Pointing to the repressiveness of Islam is hardly a good selling point for your position.

The best method you have to fight pornography ... is to use your First Amendment rights to encourage others not to buy it or use it, instead of trying to curtail the First Amendment to achieve your goals.

20 posted on 12/10/2002 11:25:40 AM PST by dirtboy
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