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To: Askel5
Well, because I'm not a materialist, I cannot put a price on or "use" for children, myself. I don't have children of my own but I imagine they'd be of inestimable value to a father or mother.

Your comments are sincere and you have raised my interest. Why do you say you are not a materialist?

Is this a religious conviction, or a philosophical one? I would like to know, because many Christians, for example, believe their religion and materialism are in conflict.

C.S. Lewis said a very wise thing. "God loves matter, else He would not have made so much of it."

I have more to say on this subject, but until I know what your position is, there is not much point. Matter is not an evil thing. There is no possible virtue that can be realized except by material people acting in a material world with material things.

Enough! I really would like to know why you seem to despise matter. (I use despise in the sense of "regard as having no value".)

Hank

64 posted on 12/11/2002 7:59:27 PM PST by Hank Kerchief
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To: Hank Kerchief
I'm Catholic. I don't despise "matter", private property, personal wealth or even sex!

This earth is a magnificent reminder of God's providence and His desire for us to be happy ... the happiest among us being those, generally, who can live on the same as the sparrows rather than get caught in the trap of materialism.

My faith and my philosophy are never in conflict so long as my philosophy remains in comport with objective truth.

(Another great thing about the material world is that it "fleshes out" or consistently confirms for us certain truths it points to which go well beyond the laws of physics by which the matter of reality is bound. Natural moral rests on what Is, not how you Feel or the fact that on occasion there are Accidents and aberrations in nature.

In fact, it was reading about quantum physics -- the math and the hard science -- what redirected me back toward the Church. The truth generally is staring one right in the face the whole time ... just like my housekeys.)

67 posted on 12/11/2002 11:16:08 PM PST by Askel5
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