Jimmy Carter offers to mediate peace talks between Israel and Palestinians...

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[ConservativeMan55]

"Quote me Cochese, quote me where I justified terrorism. Quote me where I justified killing innocents"

You asked for it!

I said that the terrorists don't want peace and you said... "Debateable."

[Zeroisanumber]

All of his "feel good" politicing did nothing but delay problems until they stewed into something much greater than before. Cases in point: Iran, North Korea.

Yeah, and those "feel good" Camp David Accords were such a total failure. I mean, Egypt and Israel have been to war at least...uh....how many times since they were signed?

That's right....ZERO.

[Revolting cat!]

So you are telling us that you've bought into the fiction of "peace process", peace as a process, like the War on Poverty is now a "process" with no end in sight? When truce after truce is broken what do your negotiations achieve? Another truce lasting five minutes? Perennial optimists, ain't we?

[DoughtyOne]

Carter must have slept in a Holday in last night.

What a dingbat.

[TXBubba]

and in part because he is a seemingly devout Christian

Yeah, and remember he withdrew from the Southern Baptist Convention. Not that they miss him much. I think they were too conservative for him.

[Zeroisanumber]

I said that the terrorists don't want peace and you said... "Debateable."

What's the stated goal of the IRA? How about the Shining Path? How about the Kurds?

Local sovereignity. You said that all terrorists want is to kill. That's wrong, or at least very "debateable". Every terrorist group has a political goal, a membership, and a base of civilian support that, most of all, desires change.

Take those basic goals, negotiate them, come to a settlement.

Poof, no more terrorist group.

[ricpic]

....I feel the burning need to get something off my chest.

I hate Jimmy Carter. And not only that, but I hate his wife and his freakish daughter, too.

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Aaaahhh.....I feel so much better now.

[onedoug]

Pacifism facilitates evil.

[Moby Grape]

It was a GREAT article.....and I will add a little fun to the sugject. P J. O'Rouke pointed out in one of his books, the following:

When asked by a reporter when she first became interested in the cause of mental illness, Roslynn Carter said, "I first became interested in the problem of mental illness when Jimmy decided to run for president."....

Well, thank you Roslynn, because after four years of the most incompetent president in our history, and having to suffer his drooling rants even today, we are ALL suffering to some degree with mental illness.

[ohioman]

Well, in your case, I guess abject stupidity can't be considered anti-American. Chrissakes man, you sound like Alan Colmes. Have you ever read a fricken history book, there is no such thing as humanity during war. And before you begin injecting your peace at any cost theories, or start carping some "meek shall inherent the earth" crap, you just don't see Jews and Christians murdering innocent Muslims.

[ConservativeMan55]

and that is what you call negotiating with killers! Who won't go away once that deal is done!!
I call North Korea to the witness stand!!!!

[Zeroisanumber]

So you are telling us that you've bought into the fiction of "peace process", peace as a process, like the War on Poverty is now a "process" with no end in sight?

BUZZZ!!! You've just connected two problems that have nothing to do with each other. While it is a thorny problem, the chances of finding peace between Israel and Palestine are much better then the chances of ending poverty. One process has nothing to do with the other.

When truce after truce is broken what do your negotiations achieve? Another truce lasting five minutes?

Find a base, build on it. Keep trying, because your children's lives depend on it.

[Revolting cat!]

Don't despair, we've made progress! Why, I remember the days when a dozen fools would show up here spouting the "Carter is a decent man" banality as if it were a piece of ultimate earthly wisdom. We're down to one now!

[Paulus Invictus]

Yeah but...he got a Nobel for some inexplicable reason unrelated to peace that does not exist anywhere he has stuck his peanut nose. The Norwegian dolts were making an anti-Bush statement.

[ohioman]

I believe zeroisthenumber should get either get the FR Idiot of the Day Award, or is a DU freak come to cause trouble. Hell, I know dumbocrats who can't stand Carter.

[Zeroisanumber]

Have you ever read a fricken history book

Dozens, maybe hundreds.

...there is no such thing as humanity during war.

War, like any other activity has rules. We follow those rules. See "Geneva Convention".

And before you begin injecting your peace at any cost theories, or start carping some "meek shall inherent the earth" crap, you just don't see Jews and Christians murdering innocent Muslims.

I didn't say "Peace at any cost", I said "This conflict is futile, and a negotiated peace is the only way out."

I'll use force when it's necessary, but this is not a situation that calls for force.

[ricpic]

You must be some kind of liberal! [Responding to zeroisanumber].

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ConservativeMan: zeroisanumber is not a liberal, he's a CERTIPHUCKINGLYINSANELIBERAL!!!

[Traffic_Can]

I agree (See post 35)

[ohioman]

Well, you and your love for Peanut, are all alone on Gilligan's Island. Pacifist freaks can be as damaging as traitors.

[Revolting cat!]

Wrong! Conceptually, War on Poverty and the "peace process", or, as I call it, War on Peace, are related by both being gubmint initiated programs that initially promised permanent and final solutions, and failing to achieve that, invented clever excuses for themselves in order to perpetuate their own existence. (And I'm not the first one to note the similarities.)