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'Columbine' Named Top Documentary of All Time [Yes, Michael Moore's 'Bowling for Columbine]
Reuters via Yahoo! News ^
| Thu Dec 12, 6:14 PM ET
Posted on 12/12/2002 6:52:19 PM PST by Kaiwen
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To: dead
'When We Were Kings' is the boxing one right?
I'll have to go rent it..
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posted on
12/12/2002 7:34:20 PM PST
by
ewing
To: Dog Gone
Girls watch the Oscars for the dresses & the hairstyles............. but you already knew that.
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posted on
12/12/2002 7:35:08 PM PST
by
Ditter
To: Dog Gone
I haven't seen the oscars since Star Wars (1977) won awards. Whenever they're on, I make it a point to take my Son somewhere to play; time better spent.
To: Mike K
My Dutch friend said the very same thing. I told her I wouldn't watch anything Michael Moore made.
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posted on
12/12/2002 7:37:41 PM PST
by
Ditter
To: Kaiwen
Bowling for Columbine," about gun culture in America, gained momentum on Thursday as it rolls toward the Oscars, racking up the honor of best documentary of all time from the International Documentary Association. This action brings with it the same ominous foreboding as the Bancroft Prize for best historical work ... Arming America by Michael Bellesiles, now a discredited fraud forced to resign a tenured professorship. Shall the International Documentary Association go the way of the Bancroft Prize?
To: Kaiwen
The International Documentary Association must have some really, really low standards.
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posted on
12/12/2002 7:38:10 PM PST
by
gieriscm
To: ewing
Yeah, it's about the 1974 heavyweight championship bout in Zaire between George Foreman and Muhammad Ali.
It's a fascinating glimpse into boxing, promotion, Africa, the 1970s, race relations, Ali, Foreman and a whole bunch more.
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posted on
12/12/2002 7:39:00 PM PST
by
dead
To: Mike K
Isn't England suffering from the label, "Highest Crime Rate in the World"?
To: Kaiwen
(Well, another Michael Moore thread, so allow me to repost something from a couple of days ago...)
Why Michael Moore hates America
Moore does what he does because he is an ugly little man with serious sexual problems that have confused him all of his life. The confusion began at an early age when his mother and father would take turns fondling him to sleep each night. Later, as a teenager, Michael was trained to be a film set "fluffer" by a homosexual pornographer who took him under his wing. This is when Michael first developed his interest in filmmaking. Michael eventually ran away from home when one of his mother's boyfriends, a very fat man with a bad case of halitosis, gave Michael a painful case of anal warts. After that things go downhill for Moore and the rest is a closely guarded secret that Michael refuses to discuss.
Anyways, that's my theory about Michael Moore. This is the kind of background that could warp a person into a liar with a raging jealousy and an obsessive hatred for anything traditional or decent.
To: Kaiwen
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posted on
12/12/2002 7:48:11 PM PST
by
dead
To: dts32041
Victory at Sea would be my first choice. But I haven't watched any Michael Moore stuff since his follow up to Roger & Me, either.
Pity, Moore can has some really good flashes of insight. But they are only flashes, and usually misdirected to support
his politics, rather than the facts.
To: Dog Gone
Hollywood liberals giving themselves awards. I can never understand why Freepers watch the Oscars. It's a little more than self-congratulation, take it from an old publicist/PR guy. It creates a headline. From the headline a legend is created through repetition and the Big Lie technique. Pretty soon the legend is 'fact,' and is even repeated by Congress-critters when they start making appropriations. The Left has used this technique as long as I've been around and it still works like a charm. Remember Alar? Yes, it was finally discredited, but it took 500 Philadelphia lawyers and a mean mule to do it. Most of these liberal lies are never even challenged.
To: ewing
Yeah, no documentary comes close to Hoop Dreams. Granted, the producers pretty much lucked out with the twists involved in the lives of Messrs. Gates and Agee, but still the story was riveting.
Where does Jerry Seinfeld: Comedian rate on the list?
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posted on
12/12/2002 7:50:35 PM PST
by
kwyjibo
To: Bernard Marx
To: dead
I agree completely. 'Crumb' was fantastic. It was the best attempt I've ever seen into finding out what makes a person the way they are, and in Crumb's case, why his art is the way it is. Granted, that something was a family that makes Crumb look pretty normal... But 'Crumb' would probably be my number 1.
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posted on
12/12/2002 8:11:14 PM PST
by
Kaiwen
To: dts32041
VICTORY AT SEA! I've got it on tape! The music alone is worth it!
To: Kaiwen
>Oscar nominations are announced on Feb. 11, and the awards will be handed out in a gala ceremony in Los Angeles on March 23.
It would have to be at a 'gala' ceremony, wouldn't it?
To: ewing
Waco: Rules of Engagement should be right up there.
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posted on
12/12/2002 8:34:51 PM PST
by
JURB
To: Kaiwen
"Bowling For Columbine" should have been disqualified from this award on the basis that it is not a documentary, it is a fictional film. Lots of documentaries use slanted statistics and one-sided arguments, which is considered fair game for documentarians who are not under any obligation to be "fair and balanced." But "BFC" contains scenes represented as fact that were clearly staged. For instance, he superimposed titles over a Bush ad from 1992 which were not on the original, which is falsifying archive footage. And the scene of him walking out of a bank with a free gun was totally staged. That bank didn't give away guns in the lobby; they gave away coupons redeemable at a gun shop for a free gun after you filled out the paperwork for a background check and finished the waiting period.
There is a difference between presenting a point of view and simply lying and falsifying footage. This is not only not the best documentary of all time, it can't even legitimately be called a documentary. If it is a documentary, then so was "Attack of the Clones."
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posted on
12/12/2002 9:25:14 PM PST
by
HHFi
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