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To: bigfootbob; BBT; evolved_rage; Brytani; farmfriend; Lorianne; Woahhs; Nick Danger; Don Myers; ...
I can tell you this, I've never felt comfortable talking about my situation with strangers. I read stories like this and I immediately think squishy males. It's a man's world. And we aren't suppose to do this.

Which, actually, is one of the cool aspects about bringing such topics to a forum like FR.

The working definition of man in our society has come to disclude clear and present fatherhood. It wasn't always that way.

Stay at home fathers don't talk in a falsetto, or wear frilly pink aprons, or other such "Mr. Mom" characterizations.

Rather, primary caregiver fathers are just that:

Primary caregiver fathers.

Certain sexist sectors of society need to move beyond the notion that clear and present parenting equals female. Not so.

Some men are better primary caregiver parents than some women and vice versa. Each man and each woman has their own level of capability as individuals; this applies to parenting as much as to anything else.

That doesn't mean generic-ness; rather, that on top of their individual level of capability, a father cares for his children as a father. That needs to get ingrained into social facts of manhood.

Yet instead, we see media images of dads that are impossibly incompetent.

9 posted on 12/26/2002 8:05:59 PM PST by Z in Oregon
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To: Z in Oregon
You're right. Perhaps it will be different in a generation. Our children and their circle of influence will be the catalyst of acceptance.

I find a lot of the "networking & support group" participants silly. I don't have time, and if I did, I would use the time to make money.
22 posted on 12/26/2002 8:40:02 PM PST by bigfootbob
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To: Z in Oregon; bigfootbob; Carry_Okie
I read stories like this and I immediately think squishy males.

Never be ashamed about staying home with the kids. As women fight for the rights traditionally held by men, they should share the rights traditionally held by women. Homosexuallity has nothing to do with it. Most of the gay men I have known over the years were career minded. The men who stay home with the kids are family minded. There is a difference.

The Myth of Male Power

Why Men Are The Disposable Sex
by Warren Farrell
(Simon & Schuster, 1993) 446 pages

In page after page, chapter after chapter, Farrell reveals mind-boggling facts that show that, contrary to the claims of the 'victim-feminists', women get preferential treatment in many areas of society, and that, as the title of the book indicates, men's power is a myth. Example: statistically, men make up far larger numbers of prison inmates. Is this because men are innately more criminal? Or is it because (1) women are considered less as suspects in crimes? or (2) women suspects do not usually receive the same degree of interrogation as male suspects? or (3) courts are far less likely to convict a defendant found guilty if that person's gender is female? or (4) a woman's prison sentence is likely to be significantly shorter than a male's for a comparable crime? or (5) when women have a male 'partner in crime', the male invariably takes the rap?

If men are the powerful sex, why do they make up 6 out of 7 suicides? Why do we accept that men, and men only, being sent in vast numbers to die in war? Why are 9 in 10 workplace deaths males? Why does breast cancer research receive over six times the funding that prostate cancer research does? Why do women live longer?

30 posted on 12/26/2002 9:07:16 PM PST by farmfriend
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To: Z in Oregon
I like to refer to the absolute frickin' boneheads that were raised by stay-at-home moms. You know. The ones that don't become useful human beings until Uncle Sam gets a hold of them.

Sometimes father does know best.

43 posted on 12/27/2002 8:54:27 AM PST by Woahhs
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