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NFL Football Discussion Thread ~ Final Week of Regular Season
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Posted on 12/28/2002 10:07:35 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture

*** USELESS VANITY THREAD ***

And thus begins the official end to the season of 20 NFL teams as the 12 survivors jockey for their post-season slots this weekend.


AFC East  
  Team           W  L T 
  Miami          9  6 0 
  N.Y. Jets      8  7 0 
  New England    8  7 0  
  Buffalo        7  8 0 
 

AFC North  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Pittsburgh     9  5 1 
  Cleveland      8  7 0 
  Baltimore      7  8 0 
  Cincinnati     2 13 0  
 

AFC South  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Tennessee     10  5 0 
  Indianapolis   9  6 0 
  Jacksonville   6  9 0 
  Houston        4 11 0 
 
AFC West  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Oakland       10  5 0 
  Denver         8  7 0 
  Kansas City    8  7 0 
  San Diego      8  7 0 


NFC East  
  Team           W  L T 
yz-Philadelphia 12  3 0  
  N.Y. Giants    9  6 0 
  Washington     6  9 0 
  Dallas         5 10 0  
 

NFC North  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Green Bay     12  3 0
  Minnesota      5 10 0 
  Chicago        4 11 0 
  Detroit        3 12 0 
 

NFC South  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Tampa Bay     11  4 0  
  Atlanta        9  5 1 
  New Orleans    9  6 0  
  Carolina       6  9 0 
 

NFC West  
  Team           W  L T 
y-San Francisco 10  5 0 
  Seattle        6  9 0 
  St. Louis      6  9 0 
  Arizona        5 10 0  

x-clinched playoff berth y-clinched division title z-clinched first-round bye *-clinched homefield advantage

Official playoff scenarios

The following are the official playoff scenarios in each conference and division as determined by the NFL. Strength of victory is the season-ending winning percentage of all the opponents a team has defeated. Strength of victory can change after final week.

AFC EAST

Miami Dolphins: Can clinch AFC East division with win or tie.
To clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Oakland loss AND Tennessee loss AND Pittsburgh loss AND Miami wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Oakland and Tennessee.
To clinch a first-round bye: 1) Win AND Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Oakland loss; 2) Win AND Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Tennessee loss; 3) Win AND Tennessee loss AND Oakland loss AND Miami wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Oakland and Tennessee.
To clinch a playoff spot: 1) N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Denver win; 2) N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie.

New England Patriots: Can clinch AFC East division: 1) Win AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie.
To clinch a playoff spot: 1) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City win; 2) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver loss or tie AND San Diego loss or tie; 3) Tie AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss AND Kansas City loss or tie.

New York Jets: Can clinch AFC East division: 1) Win AND Miami loss.
Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver win; 2) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie; 3) Tie AND New England loss or tie AND Cleveland loss AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City loss AND San Diego loss or tie.

AFC NORTH

Pittsburgh Steelers: Have clinched the AFC North title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Tennessee loss AND Oakland loss.
Can clinch a first-round bye: 1) Win AND Tennessee loss; 2) Win AND Oakland loss.

Cleveland Browns: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Denver win AND N.Y. Jets win; 2) Win AND Kansas City loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets win; 3) Win AND Denver win AND Miami win or tie; 4) Win AND Kansas City loss or tie AND Miami win or tie; 5) Tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND New England loss or tie AND Denver loss or tie AND San Diego loss or tie AND Kansas City loss; 6) New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Baltimore loss or tie AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss AND Kansas City loss.

Baltimore Ravens: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss AND Kansas City loss.

AFC SOUTH

Tennessee Titans: Have clinched AFC South title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Oakland loss or tie; 2) Tie AND Oakland loss; 3) Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Miami win AND Oakland loss AND Tennessee wins on strength of victory tiebreaker over Miami and Oakland.
Can clinch a first-round bye: 1) Win or tie; 2) Miami loss AND Pittsburgh loss or tie; 3) Oakland loss AND Miami win AND Tennessee wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Oakland and Miami.

Indianapolis Colts: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win or tie; 2) New England loss or tie; 3) N.Y. Jets win; 4) Cleveland loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie; 5) Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver win.

AFC WEST

OAKLAND Raiders: Have clinched AFC West title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win; 2) Tie AND Tennessee loss or tie; 3) Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Tennessee loss AND Miami loss; 4) Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Tennessee loss AND Oakland wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Tennessee and Miami.
Can clinch first-round bye: 1) Tie; 2) Miami loss or tie AND Pittsburgh loss or tie; 3) Miami loss or tie AND Tennessee loss; 4) Tennessee loss AND Oakland wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Tennessee and Miami.

Denver Broncos: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND New England loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie; 2) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Miami loss AND N.Y. Jets win; 3) Tie AND New England loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss AND Kansas City loss or tie AND San Diego loss or tie.

Kansas City Chiefs: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND New England loss or tie; 2) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Indianapolis win or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie; 3) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Indianapolis loss AND N.Y. Jets win AND Cleveland win; 4) Tie AND New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss or tie.

San Diego Chargers: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie AND New England loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Cleveland loss or tie; 2) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie AND Miami loss AND N.Y. Jets win AND Cleveland loss or tie; 3) Tie AND Denver loss AND Kansas City loss AND New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss.

NFC EAST

Philadelphia Eagles: Have clinched NFC East title and a first-round bye.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win; 2) Tie AND Green Bay loss or tie; 3) Green Bay loss.

New York Giants: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win; 2) Tie AND New Orleans loss or tie; 3) New Orleans loss.

NFC NORTH

Green Bay Packers: Have clinched NFC North title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Philadelphia loss or tie; 2) Tie AND Philadelphia loss; Can clinch first-round bye: 1) Win or tie; 2) Tampa Bay loss or tie.

NFC SOUTH

Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Have clinched NFC South title.
Can clinch first-round bye: 1) Win AND Green Bay loss.

Atlanta Falcons: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win or tie; 2) N.Y. Giants loss or tie; 3) New Orlean loss or tie.

New Orleans Saints: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND N.Y. Giants loss or tie; 2) Win AND Atlanta loss; 3) Tie AND N.Y. Giants loss.

NFC WEST

49ers: Have clinched NFC West title.

Source

The following teams have been officially eliminated from playoff contention:

Arizona, Buffalo, Carolina, Chicago, Cincinnati, Dallas, Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, Minnesota, St. Louis, Seattle and Washington

WEEK 17 SCHEDULE

(all times Eastern Standard Time)

Saturday, Dec. 28 
Philadelphia at N.Y. Giants, 1:30 pm
Kansas City at Oakland, 5:00 pm 
Sunday, Dec. 29 
Atlanta at Cleveland, 1:00 pm
Baltimore at Pittsburgh, 1:00 pm 
Carolina at New Orleans, 1:00 pm
Cincinnati at Buffalo, 1:00 pm 
Dallas at Washington, 1:00 pm
Miami at New England, 1:00 pm 
Minnesota at Detroit, 1:00 pm
Tennessee at Houston, 1:00 pm 
Jacksonville at Indianapolis, 4:05 pm
Arizona at Denver, 4:15 pm 
Green Bay at N.Y. Jets, 4:15 pm
Seattle at San Diego, 4:15 pm 
Tampa Bay at Chicago, 8:30 pm  
Monday, Dec. 30 
San Francisco at St. Louis, 9:00 pm  

POSTSEASON


Wild-Card Weekend 
Saturday, Jan. 4
AFC or NFC game, 4:30 pm on ABC
AFC or NFC game, 8:00 pm on ABC 
Sunday, Jan. 5
AFC game, 1:00 pm on CBS
NFC game, 4:30 pm on FOX 
Divisional Playoffs 
Saturday, Jan. 11
AFC game, 4:30 pm on CBS
NFC game, 8:00 pm on FOX
Sunday, Jan. 12
NFC game, 1:00 pm on FOX
AFC game, 4:30 pm on CBS 
Conference Championships 
Sunday, Jan. 19
NFC Championship Game, 3:00 pm on FOX
AFC Championship Game, 6:30 pm on CBS 
Super Bowl XXXVII 
Sunday, Jan. 26
Qualcomm Stadium, San Diego, Calif.
6:00 pm on ABC 


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To: Brytani
These announcers stink.....showing their bias.....Eagles get no respect.
101 posted on 12/28/2002 11:54:55 AM PST by Dog
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Nice escape by Kerry Collins. Oops, punt time anyway.

Why on earth did they not go for it?

102 posted on 12/28/2002 11:54:57 AM PST by NeoCaveman
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To: Brytani
I looked up "prima-donna" in the dictionary and there was a pic of Terrell Owens. Circled with a Sharpie too!

07 Philly Eagles
00 New Jersey Giants

Halftime

103 posted on 12/28/2002 11:55:45 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture
BTW, has the (t)uck rule come into play this season?

I can't find anything on google, but I seem to recollect that the situation came up again, in the first half of this season. May have even been with the Patriots.

104 posted on 12/28/2002 11:55:46 AM PST by CanisMajor2002
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To: dubyaismypresident
There the Giants....remember the Miracle in the Meadowlands??
105 posted on 12/28/2002 11:56:00 AM PST by Dog
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To: winodog
I've trained myself to deal with sleep deprivation Tuesdays during football season. Asking me to do it twice a week is a little much though.

I've always heard the reason games do not start earlier is because of the West Coast.
106 posted on 12/28/2002 11:58:11 AM PST by Brytani
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To: CounterCounterCulture
LOL - Add to your pictures Kurt (I get no respect) Warner and we've just about covered it all.
107 posted on 12/28/2002 11:59:07 AM PST by Brytani
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Go Jets. Go Raiders. Go New England.

Jets will win their division but lose to the Raiders (sniff sniff).

Oakland and Philly will meet in San Diego for a rematch.

108 posted on 12/28/2002 12:03:17 PM PST by montag813
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To: Brytani
And speaking of Deion Sanders, by opening his big mouth about joining the Raiders this week, he ensured that other teams would be able to get first crack at him when the Redskins officially put him on waivers. So the Chargers were able to pick him up for their reserved list and Sanders said no thanks to them.
109 posted on 12/28/2002 12:08:14 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Deion will do to whatever teams dumb enough to pick him up as he did to the Redskins - play two games, claim his toe hurts, take his signing bonus and run away.

110 posted on 12/28/2002 12:10:04 PM PST by Brytani
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To: CounterCounterCulture
And speaking of Deion Sanders, by opening his big mouth about joining the Raiders this week, he ensured that other teams would be able to get first crack at him when the Redskins officially put him on waivers. So the Chargers were able to pick him up for their reserved list and Sanders said no thanks to them.

I don't care how fast someone is, if they won't tackle, send them to basketball camp. Sanders and Dale Carter, whom the Chiefs finally got rid of have to be two of the wussiest backs ever.

111 posted on 12/28/2002 12:11:16 PM PST by CanisMajor2002
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Speaking of former/current Dallas players - interesting happensings going on with the Cowpokes. Looks like Emmitt might be playing his final game tomorrow (fitting it's against the Skins) Emmit out and Parcells in.

Best thing is, I can easily see Parcells slapping the living tar out of Jerry Jones on national television for getting in the way of his coaching. Can't wait to see what's in store for a few teams next season. I predict big changes are on the way.
112 posted on 12/28/2002 12:14:17 PM PST by Brytani
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To: CanisMajor2002
AMEN
113 posted on 12/28/2002 12:15:32 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: Polybius
Well if the Dolphins win tomorrow I wish them well in the playoffs. A Dolphins/Bucs Super Bowl maybe? The Patriots need a RB like Ricky Williams. We had Curtis Martin but we foolishly let him go. What an awesome team the Pats would be if they had a premier RB and didn't have to rely on throwing the ball all the time.
114 posted on 12/28/2002 12:17:32 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76
Giants fumbled again...
115 posted on 12/28/2002 12:18:09 PM PST by Dog
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To: winodog
I am suprised that he has been such a ass this year.

Me too, up until this year I always kinda' liked Sapp. His " I love Chuckie, he's my kind of coach" speech early this season was tremendously disrespectful to the classy and professional Dungy...the guy who put that talented team together. I hope Sapp re-evaluates his game/style after this season and changes for the better.

I also want to see the bucs lose because of Chuckie..... I am not sure if he has the mentality to coach pro players.

Chuckie is over rated and is too much of a sideline poser for my taste....he loves the camera. Davis shipped him out for a reason. I'd tab Reid in Philly, Fisher in Tenn, and Dungy as the three coaches who's style I respect the most....BTW- I'm a Steeler fan and consider Cowher an underachiever when the money is on the table.

I watched the thing with Keyshawn about the third game of the season....

Keyshawn is locker room poison and will be traded ASAP post season. It might be tough to do with his salary as it's way above his talent.

Time to get back to the second half. Happy New year. Who's your team?
116 posted on 12/28/2002 12:18:58 PM PST by mr.pink
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To: CanisMajor2002
Additional:

I've even seen my Raiders kickers, kicker Sebastian Janikowski and punter Shane Lechler lay some wicked hits on opponents. Gotta respect that.

117 posted on 12/28/2002 12:19:54 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: SamAdams76
Dolphins in the superbowl?!?! ROFL, ohhhh that's funny!!! The Dolphins will be out of the playoffs faster then you can say "YOU LOOSE".
118 posted on 12/28/2002 12:22:48 PM PST by Brytani
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To: CounterCounterCulture
I've even seen my Raiders kickers, kicker Sebastian Janikowski and punter Shane Lechler lay some wicked hits on opponents. Gotta respect that.

Yep. I believe Trent Green laid a wicked hit to bust Priest Holmes free for a TD during the KC/Jets game. Quarterbacks that block are cool.

119 posted on 12/28/2002 12:23:50 PM PST by CanisMajor2002
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To: Mr. Mulliner
Over here..
120 posted on 12/28/2002 12:26:57 PM PST by Dog
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