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NFL Football Discussion Thread ~ Final Week of Regular Season
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Posted on 12/28/2002 10:07:35 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture

*** USELESS VANITY THREAD ***

And thus begins the official end to the season of 20 NFL teams as the 12 survivors jockey for their post-season slots this weekend.


AFC East  
  Team           W  L T 
  Miami          9  6 0 
  N.Y. Jets      8  7 0 
  New England    8  7 0  
  Buffalo        7  8 0 
 

AFC North  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Pittsburgh     9  5 1 
  Cleveland      8  7 0 
  Baltimore      7  8 0 
  Cincinnati     2 13 0  
 

AFC South  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Tennessee     10  5 0 
  Indianapolis   9  6 0 
  Jacksonville   6  9 0 
  Houston        4 11 0 
 
AFC West  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Oakland       10  5 0 
  Denver         8  7 0 
  Kansas City    8  7 0 
  San Diego      8  7 0 


NFC East  
  Team           W  L T 
yz-Philadelphia 12  3 0  
  N.Y. Giants    9  6 0 
  Washington     6  9 0 
  Dallas         5 10 0  
 

NFC North  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Green Bay     12  3 0
  Minnesota      5 10 0 
  Chicago        4 11 0 
  Detroit        3 12 0 
 

NFC South  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Tampa Bay     11  4 0  
  Atlanta        9  5 1 
  New Orleans    9  6 0  
  Carolina       6  9 0 
 

NFC West  
  Team           W  L T 
y-San Francisco 10  5 0 
  Seattle        6  9 0 
  St. Louis      6  9 0 
  Arizona        5 10 0  

x-clinched playoff berth y-clinched division title z-clinched first-round bye *-clinched homefield advantage

Official playoff scenarios

The following are the official playoff scenarios in each conference and division as determined by the NFL. Strength of victory is the season-ending winning percentage of all the opponents a team has defeated. Strength of victory can change after final week.

AFC EAST

Miami Dolphins: Can clinch AFC East division with win or tie.
To clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Oakland loss AND Tennessee loss AND Pittsburgh loss AND Miami wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Oakland and Tennessee.
To clinch a first-round bye: 1) Win AND Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Oakland loss; 2) Win AND Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Tennessee loss; 3) Win AND Tennessee loss AND Oakland loss AND Miami wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Oakland and Tennessee.
To clinch a playoff spot: 1) N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Denver win; 2) N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie.

New England Patriots: Can clinch AFC East division: 1) Win AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie.
To clinch a playoff spot: 1) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City win; 2) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver loss or tie AND San Diego loss or tie; 3) Tie AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss AND Kansas City loss or tie.

New York Jets: Can clinch AFC East division: 1) Win AND Miami loss.
Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver win; 2) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie; 3) Tie AND New England loss or tie AND Cleveland loss AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City loss AND San Diego loss or tie.

AFC NORTH

Pittsburgh Steelers: Have clinched the AFC North title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Tennessee loss AND Oakland loss.
Can clinch a first-round bye: 1) Win AND Tennessee loss; 2) Win AND Oakland loss.

Cleveland Browns: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Denver win AND N.Y. Jets win; 2) Win AND Kansas City loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets win; 3) Win AND Denver win AND Miami win or tie; 4) Win AND Kansas City loss or tie AND Miami win or tie; 5) Tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND New England loss or tie AND Denver loss or tie AND San Diego loss or tie AND Kansas City loss; 6) New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Baltimore loss or tie AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss AND Kansas City loss.

Baltimore Ravens: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss AND Kansas City loss.

AFC SOUTH

Tennessee Titans: Have clinched AFC South title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Oakland loss or tie; 2) Tie AND Oakland loss; 3) Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Miami win AND Oakland loss AND Tennessee wins on strength of victory tiebreaker over Miami and Oakland.
Can clinch a first-round bye: 1) Win or tie; 2) Miami loss AND Pittsburgh loss or tie; 3) Oakland loss AND Miami win AND Tennessee wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Oakland and Miami.

Indianapolis Colts: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win or tie; 2) New England loss or tie; 3) N.Y. Jets win; 4) Cleveland loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie; 5) Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver win.

AFC WEST

OAKLAND Raiders: Have clinched AFC West title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win; 2) Tie AND Tennessee loss or tie; 3) Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Tennessee loss AND Miami loss; 4) Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Tennessee loss AND Oakland wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Tennessee and Miami.
Can clinch first-round bye: 1) Tie; 2) Miami loss or tie AND Pittsburgh loss or tie; 3) Miami loss or tie AND Tennessee loss; 4) Tennessee loss AND Oakland wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Tennessee and Miami.

Denver Broncos: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND New England loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie; 2) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Miami loss AND N.Y. Jets win; 3) Tie AND New England loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss AND Kansas City loss or tie AND San Diego loss or tie.

Kansas City Chiefs: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND New England loss or tie; 2) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Indianapolis win or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie; 3) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Indianapolis loss AND N.Y. Jets win AND Cleveland win; 4) Tie AND New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss or tie.

San Diego Chargers: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie AND New England loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Cleveland loss or tie; 2) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie AND Miami loss AND N.Y. Jets win AND Cleveland loss or tie; 3) Tie AND Denver loss AND Kansas City loss AND New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss.

NFC EAST

Philadelphia Eagles: Have clinched NFC East title and a first-round bye.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win; 2) Tie AND Green Bay loss or tie; 3) Green Bay loss.

New York Giants: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win; 2) Tie AND New Orleans loss or tie; 3) New Orleans loss.

NFC NORTH

Green Bay Packers: Have clinched NFC North title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Philadelphia loss or tie; 2) Tie AND Philadelphia loss; Can clinch first-round bye: 1) Win or tie; 2) Tampa Bay loss or tie.

NFC SOUTH

Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Have clinched NFC South title.
Can clinch first-round bye: 1) Win AND Green Bay loss.

Atlanta Falcons: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win or tie; 2) N.Y. Giants loss or tie; 3) New Orlean loss or tie.

New Orleans Saints: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND N.Y. Giants loss or tie; 2) Win AND Atlanta loss; 3) Tie AND N.Y. Giants loss.

NFC WEST

49ers: Have clinched NFC West title.

Source

The following teams have been officially eliminated from playoff contention:

Arizona, Buffalo, Carolina, Chicago, Cincinnati, Dallas, Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, Minnesota, St. Louis, Seattle and Washington

WEEK 17 SCHEDULE

(all times Eastern Standard Time)

Saturday, Dec. 28 
Philadelphia at N.Y. Giants, 1:30 pm
Kansas City at Oakland, 5:00 pm 
Sunday, Dec. 29 
Atlanta at Cleveland, 1:00 pm
Baltimore at Pittsburgh, 1:00 pm 
Carolina at New Orleans, 1:00 pm
Cincinnati at Buffalo, 1:00 pm 
Dallas at Washington, 1:00 pm
Miami at New England, 1:00 pm 
Minnesota at Detroit, 1:00 pm
Tennessee at Houston, 1:00 pm 
Jacksonville at Indianapolis, 4:05 pm
Arizona at Denver, 4:15 pm 
Green Bay at N.Y. Jets, 4:15 pm
Seattle at San Diego, 4:15 pm 
Tampa Bay at Chicago, 8:30 pm  
Monday, Dec. 30 
San Francisco at St. Louis, 9:00 pm  

POSTSEASON


Wild-Card Weekend 
Saturday, Jan. 4
AFC or NFC game, 4:30 pm on ABC
AFC or NFC game, 8:00 pm on ABC 
Sunday, Jan. 5
AFC game, 1:00 pm on CBS
NFC game, 4:30 pm on FOX 
Divisional Playoffs 
Saturday, Jan. 11
AFC game, 4:30 pm on CBS
NFC game, 8:00 pm on FOX
Sunday, Jan. 12
NFC game, 1:00 pm on FOX
AFC game, 4:30 pm on CBS 
Conference Championships 
Sunday, Jan. 19
NFC Championship Game, 3:00 pm on FOX
AFC Championship Game, 6:30 pm on CBS 
Super Bowl XXXVII 
Sunday, Jan. 26
Qualcomm Stadium, San Diego, Calif.
6:00 pm on ABC 


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To: Chi-townChief; h-roark
OK Browns fans let's go Browns AND Miami or NY Jets.
221 posted on 12/29/2002 10:03:00 AM PST by NeoCaveman
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To: CanisMajor2002
Miami is lousy on the road. New England will beat them today, and if the Jets can get by the Packers, Miami will not be in the playoffs at all.
222 posted on 12/29/2002 10:04:08 AM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: ImaGraftedBranch
GO BEARS!!!!....we'er working on a better draft choice
223 posted on 12/29/2002 10:05:50 AM PST by Rockiesrider
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To: mr.pink
I believe we did gameday threads last season for the playoffs. The last few weeks are always interesting as teams jockey for those playoff spots, especially this year!

Where I'm at, I've got Patriots/Dolphins and Falcons/Browns as my featured morning games here in the San Francisco Bay Area.

224 posted on 12/29/2002 10:06:18 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture
The Aint's are sure playing like the 'Aint's right now.

BTW: Sign the petition to defund PBS

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/813574/posts
225 posted on 12/29/2002 10:08:54 AM PST by Sparta
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To: Let's Roll
Right on Friend!

Go Packers!

Hey, who added those bad keywords about the Pack?
Must have been some DimocRat...
226 posted on 12/29/2002 10:09:13 AM PST by FBD
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To: BuddhaBoy
For the record, I don't blame the Patriots, I blame the league officials for such a bonehead rule. And that the rule is still in effect this season really ticks me off, no matter who it hurts the next time it comes into play.
227 posted on 12/29/2002 10:09:50 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: winodog
The Bucs are doing better this year under his coaching...
228 posted on 12/29/2002 10:11:35 AM PST by marajade
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To: BuddhaBoy
Miami is lousy on the road. New England will beat them today, and if the Jets can get by the Packers, Miami will not be in the playoffs at all.

The Jets are too darned schizophrenic, like the Chiefs defense (where were they Saturday :) ). I'm seeing the Packers getting home field advantage through the NFC thanks to the G-men.

Sean Salisbury

Brady faces uphill battle against Dolphins

229 posted on 12/29/2002 10:11:53 AM PST by CanisMajor2002
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To: SamAdams76
The casinos are going to rake in the cash on this Pats-Dolphins game. The line started at New England (-2), and the odds are now even. Why anyone would bet on a team (Miami) whose success in cold, winter games is downright abyssmal is a mystery, but evidently most gamblers did.

So I am rooting for Tampa Bay this year.

Speaking of teams that can't play in cold weather, I believe Tampa is 0 - 21 historically in games played in 40 degrees or below. To have a chance of succeeding in the playoffs, they'll need the home field. It wouldn't surprise me if even lowly Chicago took care of them today.

230 posted on 12/29/2002 10:13:37 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: All
Browns 3
Falcons 0
Still in the First Quarter
231 posted on 12/29/2002 10:14:47 AM PST by NeoCaveman
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To: CounterCounterCulture
I agree, the officials were to blame.
232 posted on 12/29/2002 10:15:36 AM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: CounterCounterCulture
And just so you know who I'm pulling for to win it all

Raiders all the way, baby.

233 posted on 12/29/2002 10:16:20 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: CanisMajor2002
The Jets are too darned schizophrenic, like the Chiefs defense (where were they Saturday :) ). I'm seeing the Packers getting home field advantage through the NFC thanks to the G-men.

I'm afraid you are right, but I hope not. I am sick of the Packers, and dont want to see more games in the snow.

However, I think the Raiders can beat the Packers or the Bucs in the SB anyway.

234 posted on 12/29/2002 10:17:17 AM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: flair2000
Next year a dynasty starts. The Redskin dynasty.

Eagles

Thanks. I needed a good laugh...

235 posted on 12/29/2002 10:17:34 AM PST by Fintan
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To: dubyaismypresident
My Falcons are taking a late season swoon, but they have performed better than expected for much of the year and are a young team.

With a new owner and with Michael Vick at the helm, I expect them to be competitive for many years.

236 posted on 12/29/2002 10:18:21 AM PST by eddie willers
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To: Rye
No way does Miami win today. Not a chance.
237 posted on 12/29/2002 10:18:21 AM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: eddie willers
If Vick doesnt learn to stay in the pocket, he wont last 5 years.
238 posted on 12/29/2002 10:19:22 AM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: BuddhaBoy
If Vick doesnt learn to stay in the pocket, he wont last 5 years.

Good point....but they have to catch him first. :o)

239 posted on 12/29/2002 10:20:49 AM PST by eddie willers
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To: eddie willers
My Browns are young and have a great future outlook too. Perhaps our teams will meet in the Superbowl in a few years.....
240 posted on 12/29/2002 10:21:43 AM PST by NeoCaveman
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