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Havel never struck me as a liberal, at least not in the modern meaning. His skepticism about government power, his insistence on individual and national self-determination, and his willingness to confront tyrants place him in the classical liberal (i.e. conservative) mold, IMO. Nothing in this essay supports the author's conclusion; he seems to want to glom onto Havel simply because he's a hero.
1 posted on 12/31/2002 12:42:24 PM PST by xlib
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Maybe the author means the classic liberal, the philosophy of giants suck as Locke, Hume and so on.
2 posted on 12/31/2002 12:46:45 PM PST by ChicagoRepublican
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To: xlib
ping
4 posted on 12/31/2002 1:11:14 PM PST by xlib
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This guy must be more inclined towards the ideas of classical Liberalism. However, his first and second to last paragraphs seem to be in opposition to each other.

His knee-jerk anti-Bushism is junvenile, but then he enthusiastically endorses Havel's parroting of the Bush line on anti-terrorism.

Maybe he is hedging his bets so he can make sure and keep his name on the welcome lists at the NY cocktail party circuit. Gutless.

5 posted on 12/31/2002 1:21:48 PM PST by keithtoo
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He helped bring freedom of the press, freedom of religion, and freedom of commerce to his country.

That is certainly the opposite of any accurate description of American 'liberals', for whom stealing and destroying conservative campus newspapers is considered to be a laudable act, who go out of their way to disparage America's religious people, and who despise virtually anything that promotes commerce.

It would be amusing, if it weren't so pathetic, that so many leftists whose deeply-held beliefs were put into practice in the Soviet Union and in East Germany, Czechoslovakia, and other Iron Curtain countries seem to identify with the freedom-loving people who brought down the Berlin wall and tore down the apparatus of State power, rather than with the tyrants, nomenklatura, and apparatchiks who are their natural comrades in word, thought, and deed.

6 posted on 12/31/2002 1:34:14 PM PST by The Electrician
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His respect for people's religion puts him aside of the typical "classical liberal" mode.
8 posted on 12/31/2002 5:27:40 PM PST by cornelis
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Havel: A Farewell to Politics

And now, if you will allow me, I will at last try to gain some distance from myself and attempt to formulate three of my old certainties, or rather my old observations, that my time in the world of high politics has only confirmed:

(1) If humanity is to survive and avoid new catastrophes, then the global political order has to be accompanied by a sincere and mutual respect among the various spheres of civilization, culture, nations, or continents, and by honest efforts on their part to seek and find the values or basic moral imperatives they have in common, and to build them into the foundations of their coexistence in this globally connected world.

(2) Evil must be confronted in its womb and, if there is no other way to do it, then it has to be dealt with by the use of force. If the immensely sophisticated and expensive modern weaponry must be used, let it be used in a way that does not harm civilian populations. If this is not possible, then the billions spent on those weapons will be wasted.

(3) If we examine all the problems facing the world today, be they economic, social, ecological, or general problems of civilization, we will always --whether we want to or not--come up against the problem of whether a course of action is proper or not, or whether, from the long-term planetary point of view, it is responsible. The moral order and its sources, human rights and the sources of people's right to human rights, human responsibility and its origins, human conscience and the penetrating view of that from which nothing can be hidden with a curtain of noble words--these are, in my deepest convictions and in all my experience, the most important political themes of our time.

Dear friends, when I look around me and see so many famous people who appear to have descended from somewhere up there in the starry heavens, I cannot help feeling that at the end of my long fall from a fairy-tale world onto the hard earth, I suddenly find myself once more inside a fairy tale. There is perhaps only one difference: now I can appreciate this feeling more than I was able to in similar circumstances thirteen years ago.


9 posted on 12/31/2002 5:38:15 PM PST by cornelis
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The Bush Administration, for example, rarely feels the rub of resistance; it is able to justify gratuitous tax breaks, snuggle up to friendly corporations, and fling environmentalism on the slag heap not least because the Democrats—cowed, confused, incoherent—too often end up speaking, when they speak at all, in the helium voice of a Warner Bros. pipsqueak.

ROFL! That had me laughing for five minutes. I love the sounds of socialists howling in pain.

Of course the rest of the article is BS. It was Vaclav Havel who said that the Achilles heel of Communism was the constant and massive lying, and that "living in truth" was the path to vanquishing totalitarianism. Remnick, OTOH, is a Clinton groupie. Enough said.

10 posted on 01/01/2003 3:32:19 AM PST by TheMole
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