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To: Sabertooth
"Watch for the Venezuelan - Al Qaeda connection to show up at the Panama Canal, too."

I'm not sure what you're alluding to, but I firmly believe all roads (and smuggling men and weapons through the Panama Canal) lead back to Beijing. Apparently, Zemin managed to convince al-Qaeda and the assorted other enemies of the US that we could be brought down if everyone ganged up on us.

Whether we survive as a nation or not will depend on where we are in God's timeline. Human nature being what it is, there will be ample opportunity to break up some of the cogs unless God has decided it's time for the US to fade in power. And I suspect that decision will be made on the basis of the character we exhibit.

76 posted on 01/01/2003 7:50:23 AM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: Lion's Cub
clinton/gore---carter...axis of evil drive train---shaft!
77 posted on 01/01/2003 9:28:52 AM PST by f.Christian
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To: Lion's Cub
"...I firmly believe all roads (and smuggling men and weapons through the Panama Canal) lead back to Beijing. Apparently, Zemin managed to convince al-Qaeda and the assorted other enemies of the US that we could be brought down if everyone ganged up on us."

Chavez has put 4.5 Billion $'s in Chinese banks and China is the biggest investor in Venezuela now with more committed there than in all the rest of South America combined, even if we include their Mexican investments, too.

Also, Chavez is clearly supporting Castro well beyond just rhetoric with "Free" oil 'in trade' for Cuban advisors running secret 'internal security' training camps there.

Also, FARC/ELN Columbian revolutionists, that US is fighting, are partially supported materially in exchange for lucrative drug trade that's transported via official health dept vehicles here across Venezuela with Puerto Rico as the foreign destination.

Relationship with Gaddafi and support of his regime has secured Katushka missles and their Libyan technicians here in Venezuela.

With Saddam Hussein, Chavez has both supported and trades with his regime, including oil processing shenanigans at Venezuela refineries to cover up the Iraqi original source.

He also formed and supports "Circulos Bolivarianos" all over the world, and is paying them on a monthly basis. There are even some in the States: New York, San Francisco, Houston, amongst other places. The more active ones are in Europe. They are 100% subversives, paid for with Chavez government money.

His goal is clearly not in having the countries oil revenues trickle down to the needy and is why, after five years of empty promises, he's even largly lost their support as well.

Yes, it's no wonder China would be so comfortable partnering with the Chavez regime.

Regarding the U.S. waking up to all this, I'm a bit cynical and if I had to bet I'd be concerned the US govt usually takes the shortsighted and short-term "whatever will provide oil stability stand". With little regard to longer term reprecussions to the people or nation there or the threat of terrorism supported by Chavez. So, we can look forward to the continuation and expansion of Hugo Chavez type innitiatives, such as...

Terror Threat from Venezuela: Al Queda Involved

Chavez bio-weapons lab in Venezuela for Saddam and Castro

-Shane

78 posted on 01/01/2003 9:38:16 AM PST by shanec
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