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Peace rally runs into war veterans; Tempers erupt as protesters meet at Vietnam memorial
Charlotte Observer ^

Posted on 01/02/2003 9:39:14 PM PST by RCW2001


Staff Writer

About 50 people who marched to the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Charlotte on Wednesday to protest a possible war with Iraq were confronted by angry veterans who said their presence was an insult to fallen comrades.

A police officer intervened and said the protesters should be allowed to proceed. The dozen veterans stepped aside.

"I have no hate against anyone except punks like you," Edd Furr, 67, a Vietnam veteran from Concord, shouted at one of the protesters.

As they walked alongside the memorial several veterans exchanged words with the protesters and told them not to touch the wall, located in a park between and Third and Fourth streets just east of the I-277 loop.

"I have already touched that wall before," said David Dixon, 34, an organizer of the march.

"Then your finger must be burning," a veteran responded.

The protesters lined up in front of the wall, sang "God Bless America" and left soon afterward.

Before marching to the war memorial, the protesters gathered at noon at Marshall Park. As several people spoke, protesters carried signs with some reading "No American Blood for Iraqi Oil" and "War Kills / Peace is Patriotic." One person held a small American flag.

Some speakers criticized U.S. Mideast policy, while others spoke of the immorality of war.

To the veterans it was not the protesters' message that was upsetting. The veterans said they were angered by the protesters' attempt to use the memorial as way to make their point.

"This hurts," said Diran Tookmanian, 57, a Vietnam veteran, whose voice broke slightly as he appeared to hold back tears. "This hurts more than you can imagine."

Tookmanian said he served in Vietnam for a year in the infantry. Tookmanian and other veterans said they learned about the protest over the Internet.

"If they want to protest they can go in front of government buildings and scream and yell to their heart's content," Tookmanian said as he pointed toward uptown. "I object to the place they do it. To me this is like Gettysburg. It is like Arlington. This is hallowed ground to us."

Dixon, Charlotte coordinator of the Fellowship of Reconciliation, responded: "If we come here on New Year's Day it is to honor and respect those people."

Dixon said there was not a greater turnout because not enough people knew about the demonstration or the groups opposed to a war with Iraq.

"I would say the anti-war movement is in the majority," Dixon said.

"It's rare that I meet a person who is for the war."

One of those who attended the rally and spoke was David Marresh, 77, of Myers Park. Marresh said he would rather have been home, but: "I think it is wrong, and when I feel that strongly about it I have to speak up. I feel that a terrible action has been set in motion by the president, and it can only end in disaster."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: antiamerican; marxistswine; prosaddam; saddamlovers
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1 posted on 01/02/2003 9:39:15 PM PST by RCW2001

To: RCW2001
I feel that a terrible action has been set in motion by the president, and it can only end in disaster."

Notice how these people never mention the actions of other leaders in the world like saddam, taliban, N Korea, etc. Only our leaders are evil and war like. Idiots.

2 posted on 01/02/2003 9:43:16 PM PST by chance33_98

To: RCW2001
These idiots! They protested Vietnam, and then when we pulled out, everybody discovered why we were there, viz., to protect the south from the north. When the north overran the south, the north didn't just conquer; they annihilated the south. Then, Joan Baez and some of the other spaced-out hippy retards said we needed to get back over there. Yea. Right.

Let Saddam use a WMD on American soil, and see how "peaceful" these retards are.

3 posted on 01/02/2003 9:45:31 PM PST by hoosierskypilot

To: RCW2001
"It's rare that I meet a person who is for the war."

Don't get out much, huh?
4 posted on 01/02/2003 9:47:34 PM PST by canuck_conservative

To: hoosierskypilot
Let Saddam use a WMD on American soil, and see how "peaceful" these retards are.

Sadly, they would still see it as our fault for making saddam do it...idiots indeed.

5 posted on 01/02/2003 9:47:43 PM PST by chance33_98

To: RCW2001
How dare these filthy socialists desecrate the ground commemorating America's fallen heroes.
6 posted on 01/02/2003 9:48:18 PM PST by second_half_recovery

To: canuck_conservative
I was thinking the same thing. I figured that her social circle was pretty small.
7 posted on 01/02/2003 9:52:39 PM PST by notpoliticallycorewrecked

To: second_half_recovery
How dare these filthy socialists desecrate the ground commemorating America's fallen heroes.

Many American heros, patriots, and combat veterans oppose the upcoming war. And many chickenhawks favor war.

8 posted on 01/02/2003 10:01:14 PM PST by Commie Basher

To: RCW2001
"I would say the anti-war movement is in the majority," Dixon said.

Yeah, that's what our local miserable, filthy, socialist maggots say too. They are liars and so are you.

9 posted on 01/02/2003 10:04:09 PM PST by BikerTrash

To: RCW2001
These protesters remind me of the scene in "The Two Towers" where an crafty advisor to the king named "Wormtongue" (I think) argues against going to war -- that the army of blood thirsty zoombies gathering to destroy the city really isn't really so bad.

Did any of you who saw this film recognize the similarities between Wormtongue and our own peaceniks?
10 posted on 01/02/2003 10:10:18 PM PST by garjog

To: RCW2001
"This hurts," said Diran Tookmanian, 57, a Vietnam veteran, whose voice broke slightly as he appeared to hold back tears. "This hurts more than you can imagine."

I can imagine it.

L

11 posted on 01/02/2003 10:15:57 PM PST by Lurker

To: garjog
Peace For Our Time
by Neville Chamberlain


The following is the wording of the printed statement that Neville Chamberlain waved as he stepped off the plane on 30 September, 1938 after the Munich Conference had ended the day before:

"We, the German Führer and Chancellor, and the British Prime Minister, have had a further meeting today and are agreed in recognizing that the question of Anglo-German relations is of the first importance for our two countries and for Europe.
We regard the agreement signed last night and the Anglo-German Naval Agreement as symbolic of the desire of our two peoples never to go to war with one another again.
We are resolved that the method of consultation shall be the method adopted to deal with any other questions that may concern our two countries, and we are determined to continue our efforts to remove possible sources of difference, and thus to contribute to assure the peace of Europe."

Chamberlain read the above statement in front of 10 Downing St. and said:
"My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British Prime Minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honour. I believe it is peace for our time...
Go home and get a nice quiet sleep."
12 posted on 01/02/2003 10:23:37 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

To: RCW2001
My heart goes out to these veterans. I can't decide what is more ugly and evil: the terrorist attacks of 9-11 OR the insulting and traitorous stupidity of the anti-war protestors. The doves can claim not to have any ill will against war veterans, but their very actions are a huge slap in the face to all those good men who are, and were, willing to sacrifice their lives to protect our country.

If you love your freedom, thank a veteran!

13 posted on 01/02/2003 10:33:55 PM PST by Sally II

To: RCW2001
"I would say the anti-war movement is in the majority," Dixon said.

"It's rare that I meet a person who is for the war."

The high and mighty has spoken. How much you want to bet the reason that this man has not spoken to anyone who supports the war, is because he never speaks with anyone but his spaced out peace loving friends. This is a prime example of a controlled population, folks. If you are going to make a comment like this and make it truthful you have to canvas multiple demographic not just the liberinazi demographic. My support and my heart goes out to all veterans of the vietnam war. Thank you for serving our country and many prayers for your companions that you may have lost.
14 posted on 01/02/2003 10:39:53 PM PST by PedroDaGr8

To: garjog
Did any of you who saw this film recognize the similarities between Wormtongue and our own peaceniks?

Oh, my goodness, YES!!! I only wish we could send our peaceniks off to the enemy, like Wormtongue was sent off. Exile them all to Iraq, then have someone tell Saddam that they all know military secrets. I wish that God could wake them up to the realities of the world. You can't change the world with pure good intentions when a good chunk of the world wants power and dominance and the distruction and suffering of those who do not believe like they do.

15 posted on 01/02/2003 10:43:06 PM PST by Sally II

To: hoosierskypilot
Let Saddam use a WMD on American soil, and see how "peaceful" these retards are.

The chances are, they may simply say that we must "understand" why these dirt bags hate us so much. They will never get a clue.

16 posted on 01/02/2003 10:44:13 PM PST by Mark17

To: Sally II
Exile them all to Iraq, then have someone tell Saddam that they all know military secrets.

When we do our Friday night Freeps against the peaceniks group we periodically have people driving by yelling at them "Go to Iraq, if you like Saddam so much". Some are much more colorful in how they say it, but several give their passing opinion every Friday night.

17 posted on 01/02/2003 11:06:34 PM PST by notpoliticallycorewrecked

To: Sally II
Not only for the men who fought there but for the families who lost loved ones in Nam. These peaceniks are hateful and I despise them. It is clear there is nothing that could make them stand by America and her fighting men. They had themselves a grand old time in the 60's in our free country where they can defame the brave and honorable. Too bad they won't take their party to Iraq or N.K., and maybe we will get lucky and unlike Jane Fonda they won't come back. Could be they would like Iraq better or could be they might be pushing up daisies. Makes no difference to me because I truly despise them.
18 posted on 01/02/2003 11:11:29 PM PST by Kangaroo Court

To: RCW2001
commies got no respect
19 posted on 01/02/2003 11:19:38 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead

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