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Police return seized pot
The Tribune (San Luis Obispo, CA) ^ | Jan. 04, 2003 | Patrick S. Pemberton

Posted on 01/06/2003 9:53:14 AM PST by MrLeRoy

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To: ApesForEvolution
Would it be logical to say that 15 years since last use versus 33 years since last use would make it more likely that you would be suffering from some disorder than I?

Actually the disorder you suffer from, IMO, is the same as all the major demorat candidates for President in 2004 suffer from.

And that is the disorder of trying to say marijuana is the wonderweed and not part of the drug culture, while trying to come up with the weasel words to worm your way out of that position.

101 posted on 01/06/2003 3:29:22 PM PST by Dane
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To: Dane
constant use of cannabis(pot) does induce paranoia, IMO."

Only among those who are naturally paranoid. Do you fall into that group?

102 posted on 01/06/2003 3:29:27 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Rye
Only among those who are naturally paranoid. Do you fall into that group?

IMO, I think you will find your answer amongst the members of the Libertarian party and ACLU.

103 posted on 01/06/2003 3:31:58 PM PST by Dane
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To: Dane
"And that is the disorder of trying to say marijuana is the wonderweed and not part of the drug culture, while trying to come up with the weasel words to worm your way out of that position."

Now exactly when and where did I say any such thing?! Dane, you become quite shrill and disjointed rather quickly...and the more of your likes I see defending alcohol and bashing marijuana makes me wonder if there is any logic to be found amongst the Warriors battling the ever losing, liberty-eroding, money-wasting WO(some)Ds.
104 posted on 01/06/2003 3:34:53 PM PST by ApesForEvolution
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To: MrLeRoy
My #83 was straight forward.
Illegal donations made by suppliers of legal crude to terror is on our list and will be dealt with in the future.
105 posted on 01/06/2003 3:34:55 PM PST by A CA Guy
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To: tacticalogic
Invoking Hillary's name will do you no good. This is a conservative site, and the people that frequent such places have too much respect for reason and logic to be taken in by such ploys

Huh and the above italicized passage comes from someone who employed text book Hillary tactics(i.e reply #94), such as the race card while ignoring the fact since the 60's that pot has been an integral part of the leftist drug culture.

Oh well conviently forgetful minds are a trademark of the left. What else is new.

106 posted on 01/06/2003 3:36:26 PM PST by Dane
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To: Dane
I hate to break it to you, but a lot Republicans smoke weed as well, and remain paranoia-free. Hell, you were probably one of them (pre-'87).
107 posted on 01/06/2003 3:37:47 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Dane; tacticalogic
Maybe Dane is a pot head employing reverse psychology to advance the cause of legalization by using arguments void of logic and filled with blind hate.

Dane, you are incredibly effective at keeping threads (focused on marijuana) alive and well while loading them with misinformation, personal attacks and bad logic. You never present anything persuasive that refutes the Anti-Warriors, so what else is one to presume regarding my initial hypothesis?
108 posted on 01/06/2003 3:41:22 PM PST by ApesForEvolution
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To: Rye
I hate to break it to you, but a lot Republicans smoke weed as well, and remain paranoia-free. Hell, you were probably one of them (pre-'87).

How did you know that me, Ronnie, and Nancy were smoking bowls in the oval office? Damn Washington Post.(/sarcasm)

109 posted on 01/06/2003 3:42:21 PM PST by Dane
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To: ApesForEvolution; MrLeRoy
"Regarding glaucoma, what, if any, 'relief' does 'medicinal' marijuana bring to inner eye pressure and the damage that results from it?"

THC, the active ingredient in MJ, is a vaso-dialator. In other words, it expands and relaxes blood vessels and tissues. This effect is what causes the munchies, the blood vessels in the stomach expand causing a "hungry" feeling.

This same vessel expanding effect also works on the blood vessels in the eye. By expanding the volume of the eye vessels, interoccular fluid pressure is lowered.

110 posted on 01/06/2003 3:44:48 PM PST by Vigilantcitizen
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To: Rye; All
I hate to break into this conversation, but the soup kitchen I started 13 years ago is full of drunks and very few pot users. Pot is just as easy to get hold of, if not easier in these parts, than alcohol is. Alcohol requires walking down the block and into a liquor store...
111 posted on 01/06/2003 3:45:08 PM PST by ApesForEvolution
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To: ApesForEvolution
Maybe Dane is a pot head employing reverse psychology to advance the cause of legalization by using arguments void of logic and filled with blind hate.

Whew you got the Hillary fax also.

Dane, you are incredibly effective at keeping threads (focused on marijuana) alive and well while loading them with misinformation, personal attacks and bad logic. You never present anything persuasive that refutes the Anti-Warriors, so what else is one to presume regarding my initial hypothesis?

Wow you all are "incredibly" effective after your losses in the last elections, where all the major pro-drug intiatives lost(San Francisco excluded), but you all still live in the halcyon days of when Hillary friend Soros pro-drug state intiatives passed during the Clinton era.

112 posted on 01/06/2003 3:50:24 PM PST by Dane
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To: Dane
Nice attempt at a dodge, but I didn't pull the year 1987 out of thin air. (See your post #79). You probably smoked heavily up to that time, couldn't handle it (paranoia, delusions, etc), and then quit. My point was that only people with a natural tendency towards paranoia exhibit these symptoms when smoking ganja.
113 posted on 01/06/2003 3:51:14 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: viligantcitizen
"THC, the active ingredient in MJ, is a vaso-dialator. In other words, it expands and relaxes blood vessels and tissues. This effect is what causes the munchies, the blood vessels in the stomach expand causing a "hungry" feeling.

This same vessel expanding effect also works on the blood vessels in the eye. By expanding the volume of the eye vessels, interoccular fluid pressure is lowered."

Thanks, I wasn't aware of this and have been reading various studies and other commentaries all afternoon.

I might be coming to the thinking that being intoxicated to be intoxicated is wrong; legal and illegal drugs intoxicate (perc., vike, etc.) but it's ok because they're prescribed by a practitioner and serve a purpose in pain/disease management. Illegal drugs made legal for the same purpose, with no evil intent, maybe can serve the same purpose? What I find hilarious are those that drink alcohol to relax or enjoy a good meal and say because it's legal are somehow better than those that smoke a little weed now and then for the same reasons!

I don't do either, but I'd personally, from my own experiences, have someone behind the wheel driving slow and cautious on a couple hits than someone out of control on booze.

114 posted on 01/06/2003 3:53:32 PM PST by ApesForEvolution
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To: Dane
"Wow you all are "incredibly" effective after your losses in the last elections,"

My candidates, all pro-life and somewhat conservative, won. There you go again...
115 posted on 01/06/2003 3:55:02 PM PST by ApesForEvolution
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To: Rye
Nice attempt at a dodge, but I didn't pull the year 1987 out of thin air. (See your post #79). You probably smoked heavily up to that time, couldn't handle it (paranoia, delusions, etc), and then quit. My point was that only people with a natural tendency towards paranoia exhibit these symptoms when smoking ganja.

Well just lock me up and throw away the key for speaking out against the Libertarian drug culture.

116 posted on 01/06/2003 3:55:14 PM PST by Dane
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To: MrLeRoy
Good to see that this guy was given "quarter".
117 posted on 01/06/2003 3:56:13 PM PST by jodorowsky
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To: ApesForEvolution
but the soup kitchen I started 13 years ago is full of drunks and very few pot users

That doesn't surprise me at all. Being homeless and broke doesn't go with pot smoking very well. Stoners would go nuts not being able to afford satisfy to their munchies. Alcohol is both a sedative AND food.

118 posted on 01/06/2003 3:56:48 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: ApesForEvolution; MrLeRoy
After reading my previous post, one thing I left off was: MJ is only effective as a short term tool to lower occular fluid pressure. For example, if someone had injury induced glaucoma and needed to lower pressure quickly so that laser procedures could be done.

As a long term hereditary glaucoma treatment, MJ isn't as effective as drops.

119 posted on 01/06/2003 3:57:32 PM PST by Vigilantcitizen
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To: ApesForEvolution
My candidates, all pro-life and somewhat conservative, won. There you go again...

Were your candidates pro pot just like Ronald and Nancy Reagan?(/sarcasm)

120 posted on 01/06/2003 3:58:47 PM PST by Dane
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