Dixie's dilemma

Athens Banner-Herald ^ | January 6, 2003 | Michael A. Fletcher

[Quilla]

I spent eight years of my youth being herded by an 80 year old, 5 foot tall nun with a 6 foot ruler, they're lucky I'm allowing blue jeans...

My father was stationed in Naples, Italy when I attended kindergarten and first grade. I was the only student in my class, towered over by what looked like four 8' tall nuns. I still have nightmares. My children are receiving an excellent education a private Christian school where Dixie Outfitter and Confederate Cotton shirts are allowed, toy guns are used as props for the cowboy themed homecoming decorations, and a history teacher asked me for a copy of my CNN LIES bumper sticker. Life is grand.

[Rebelbase]

Former NAACP official embraces Confederate heritage

[JohnGalt]

''Since last year, we have gotten well over 200 complaints about the banning of Confederate symbols in schools,'' said Kirk Lyons, lead counsel for the Southern Legal Resource Center, a North Carolina-based public-interest law firm that works to protect Confederate heritage..."

Old friend Kirk Lyons of Andres Strassmeir/Dennis Mahon/Tim McVeigh/OKC Bombing fame fame. Having been chased out of the neo-Nazi movement, he has recast himself as a defender of Southern Heritage. Southern Heritage does not need this guy around.

[HELLRAISER II]

Southern Whites are a constant target for real racists who look for confrontations on an on going basis.

[HELLRAISER II]

The South was oppressive on Blacks back then, none of us deny that. However no one alive today was ever enslaved by us Mr.Walter C. Butler so we have never dehumanized anyone. In my opinion Blacks & other minorities want to be able to rub their pride symbols in our face and yet we cannot do the same, that's totally unfair and eventually it will bite them in the @ss.

[ricpic]

...secession was illegal and treasonous.

Not so. There would not have been a USA if the constitution had included a clause banning secession. The original thirteen states, north and south, were far too jealous of their own sovereignty, to have entered into such a union.

If the South Carolina militia had not fired on Ft. Sumter, Congress would have had no legal authorization for declaring war.

The victory of the north in the Civil War definitively established the supremacy of the central government over the individual states, and thus, ended federalism as it had been understood by the founders.

[HELLRAISER II]

I don't agree with you, however that would be fairer than what is happening nowaday's. The minorities are allowed to frollick in their ethniticity & nationality while we are punished & ridiculed for ours and that is not acceptable. It's P.C. gone Amok!

[HELLRAISER II]

Slavery was evil? Yeah we can agree with that. Secession was illegal and treasonous? I don't know about that, I seem to recall reading that the English said the same thing about us when we rebelled but I don't hear anybody saying we're all treasonous but it's only because we kicked their @ss. Yes the South was defeated but that doesn't mean that we aren't proud of our Southern Heritage so we'll wear whatever we damn well please, thank you very much. Oh by the way Jesus is just as discriminated against as we are in our public schools, it's a damn travesty and it isn't sitting well with us.

[stainlessbanner]

What would Jesus do?

Read about St. Andrew and his relationship with Jesus and how he (Andrew) was crucified. Then read about the history of the CBF and St. Andrew - I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

[ArGee]

The really amazing thing is it's all this flap is elevating the Stars and Bars from a symbol of a defeated revolution to a status symbol of pride. The first black daddy (I know, he probably wasn't around but we won't go there) whose kid came home complaining should have simply told his upset son, "Grow up, boy, and live with it. You won't always like the people around you. The best way to deal with it is to do well in school, then refuse to hire the bums in the business you create." If that had been the black reaction then the flag would be a symbol of a bygone era, nothing more.

I think it was Lenny Bruce who did a comic routine suggesting that JFK should introduce his cabinet saying, "n*****, n*****, greaseball, greasball, whop, honkey, ..." so that the words would lose their offensive power. The black community could learn a lot from that kind of thinking.

Shalom.

[arly]

Ban all message clothing at secondary public schools. It is a distraction from the essential purpose of the place. Better yet, have uniforms. Call me a facist if you like. That is the way I see it. Folks can let it all hang out when they reach adulthood, and/or got to college. In the meantime, I don't hesitate in using the iron fist prudentially. 17 posted on 01/06/2003 8:55 PM PST by Torie

WOWWW that is scary !... of course it does work well for the Chicoms doesn't it?.. In other words what your saying is an American citizen should not be afforded there rights until adulthood hey?...

[stand watie]

make sure i'm ON!

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

!!!!

[thatdewd]

I looked for this one in the on-line catalog, but I can't find it.

Here's a link to the catalog page that has it:

CATALOG LINK

[dbwz]

The school's vice principal said he took ''redneck'' to mean a violent, bigoted person.

The problem is that so-called "educators" have lots and lots of tiny rocks where their brains should be.

Hell, some of my best friends are rednecks! ;-)

[maro]

I have no brief against R. Lee; many Southerners were good men, and many Northerners were bounders, cads, and hypocrites. And yes, the Civil War was about more than slavery, although slavery was certainly important. At the time, the economics of the situation were paramount. But God works in mysterious ways, and as it turned out, the Civil War ended slavery. What is important is now. What statement can a modern person be making by wearing a Confederate flag? Is he for slavery? For secession? (And yes, history and treason are defined by the winners. So what? We won the Revolutionary War, so Benedict Arnold is a traitor and Geo. Washington is a hero. Do you disagree with these characterizations?) Surely there must be some symbol of "Southern culture" that is not tainted. Isn't it really pretty much like those black Olympic athletes raising their fists at the awards podium, except that you guys are mouthing "white power." Isn't it strange that some conservatives really get excited about the First Amendment on this issue? What if some Japanese exchange student wore the Rising Sun flag, or wanted to celebrate December 7, or some German exchange student wore a swastika, or wanted to celebrate Auschwitz. What if some Arab student wanted to celebrate 9/11 or wear an Osama T-shirt? At what point can we regulate student speech in the name of good order, decorum, and common sense? Can white students wear hoods? If black students are wearing symbols that are similarly disruptive (and frankly, I don't think FUBU is anything like the rebel flag), so be it. It's time for white Southerners to get over the War Between the States.

[WFTR]

I don't think what you wear in school has much to do with whether you become a mind numbed robot.

My point isn't that the clothes do or do not make one a sheeple. My point is that being conditioned to think that the government should be able to tell us what to do on even seemingly trivial matters is a problem. The government should only rarely be telling us what to do and should confine its authority to the important issues. You seem to think that because what one wears is relatively unimportant in life or at least in school, then the government should dictate the matter. I think just the opposite.

On the points that are important, I think the schools should have intelligent but strict rules. I think that being disrespectful to a teacher should be strongly punished. I think that failure to pay attention in class should be punished. I think that mistreating other students should be punished. These are important things, and there should be strong rules to govern these issues.

Did you go to a private grammar school or a public one? In private schools, I don't think that uniforms cause the same problem because the student eventually realizes that his parents have made the choice. I think parents should make choices about what children wear, and making that choice through the vehicle of choosing a private school is not the same as having it imposed by the government.

WFTR
Bill

[PistolPaknMama]

I couldn't spell Mississippi

m-i-crooked letter- crooked letter-i-crooked letter-crooked letter-i-hump back hump back-i.

Does that help? :-))

[PistolPaknMama]

The problem is that so-called "educators" have lots and lots of tiny rocks where their brains should be.

Thank the NEA for all their selective inclusionary crappola.

[PistolPaknMama]

And yes, the Civil War was about more than slavery, although slavery was certainly important.

Let me ask you. If our founding fathers had not owned slaves, nor if the Constitution of the United States had not protected slavery and if slavery had been abolished at the founding of this Republic and did not exist in the 1800's, do you think the War Between the States would have taken place at all?