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Connecting the War on Guns & Drugs [my title]
SHOTGUN NEWS ^ | 1/11/03 | Amicus Populi

Posted on 01/11/2003 10:15:11 AM PST by tpaine

Ms. Nancy Snell Swickard - Publisher Shotgun News P. O. Box 669, Hastings, NE 68902

Dear Ms. Swickard,

I was very distressed to see the remark of one of your subscribers which you quoted on page 8 of your October 1 (1996) issue. The support of the "Drug War" by anyone who values the 2nd Amendment, and the rest of the Bill of Rights, is the most dangerous error of thinking in the politics of the "gun control" debate. This error is extremely widespread, although there have been some recent signs that some Americans are seeing through the propaganda of the Drug Warriors which affects all levels of our society.

Sadly, major players in the defense of the 2nd Amendment (like the NRA) show no signs of awareness of the part played by the Drug War in our present hysteria over violence. This is a serious error, because the violence produced by the Drug War is one of the main reasons that a majority of American citizens support gun control. Without the majority of a citizenry frightened by endemic violence, Mr. Clinton and his allies in the Congress would not enjoy the power they now possess to attack the Bill of Rights.

To understand the effect of the Drug War, we must understand it for what it is: the second Prohibition in America in this Century. I do not need to remind anyone who knows our recent history what a disaster the first Prohibition was. It is a classic example of the attempt to control a vice--drunkenness--by police power. It made all use of alcohol a case of abuse. It produced such an intense wave of violence that it gave a name--The Roaring Twenties--to an entire decade. It lead to the establishment of powerful criminal empires, to widespread corruption in police and government, and to a surge of violence and gunfire all over the land. And it produced a powerful attack on the Bill of Rights, including the most successful campaign of gun control laws in America up to that time.

Before the first Prohibition criminalized the trade in alcohol, liquor dealers were ordinary businessmen; after 1920 they were all violent criminals fighting for their territories. We had gang wars, and drive-by shootings, and the use of machine guns by criminals.

We now have the same effects of the first Prohibition in the present Drug War, and Americans appear to be sleepwalking through it with no apparent understanding of what is happening. It is testimony to the truth of Santayana's famous remark that those who do not know history are condemned to repeat it. We must understand that this has all happened before, and for the same reasons.

It is essential that defenders of the 2nd Amendment understand that the whole Bill of Rights is under attack by the Drug War, and that assaults on the 2nd Amendment are a natural part of that trend. What is the main premise of a gun-control law? It is that guns are implements which are too dangerous to entrust to the citizenry. What is the main premise of Drug Prohibition? It is that drugs are substances which are too dangerous to entrust to the citizenry. Both lines of reasoning say that because a few people abuse something, all Americans must be treated like children or irresponsibles. All use is abuse.

This is an extremely dangerous idea for a government, and it leads inevitably to tyranny. It is a natural consequence that such thinking will lead to attacks on the Bill of Rights, because that is the chief defense in the Constitution against abuses of government power.

Since the beginning of the Drug War, no article of the Bill of Rights has been spared from attack. There has been an enormous increase in police power in America, with a steady erosion of protections against unreasonable search and seizure, violations of privacy, confiscation of property, and freedom of speech. We have encouraged children to inform on their parents and we tolerate urine tests as a condition of employment for anyone. All who question the wisdom of Drug Prohibition are immediately attacked and silenced. These are all violations of the Bill of Rights. Are we surprised when the 2nd Amendment is attacked along with the others?

We understand that opponents of the 2nd Amendment exaggerate the dangers of firearms and extrapolate the actions of deranged persons and criminals to all gun owners. That is their method of propaganda. Do we also know that Drug Warriors exaggerate the hazards of drug use--"all use is abuse'--in the same way formerly done with alcohol, and extrapolate the condition of addicts to all users of drugs? That is their method of propaganda. Most Americans are convinced by both arguments, and both arguments depend on the public's ignorance. That is why discussion and dissent is inhibited.

Most Americans are moving to the idea that drugs and guns are evil and should be prohibited. Encouraging one way of thinking supports the other because the logic of the arguments is the same.

Why not prohibit a dangerous evil? If every drinker is a potential alcoholic, every drug-user a future addict, and every gun-owner a potential killer, why not ban them all? There is no defense against this logic except to challenge the lies that sit at the root of the arguments. Those are the lies promoted by the prevailing propaganda in support of all Prohibition. We cannot oppose one and support the other. To do so undermines our efforts because all these movements walk on the same legs.

If we do not explain to people that the fusillade of gunfire in America, the return to drive-by shooting, and our bulging prisons, come from the criminalizing of commerce in illegal drugs, we cannot expect them to listen to a plea that we must tolerate some risk in defense of liberty.

Why should we tolerate, for the sake of liberty, the risk of a maniac shooting a dozen people, when we cannot tolerate the risk that a drug-user will become an addict?

In fact, very few gun-owners are mass murderers and a minority of drug-users are addicts, but people are easily persuaded otherwise and easily driven to hysteria by exaggerating dangers. What addict would be a violent criminal if he could buy his drug from a pharmacy for its real price instead of being driven to the inflated price of a drug smuggler? How many cigarette smokers would become burglars or prostitutes if their habits cost them $200 per day? How many criminal drug empires could exist if addicts could buy a drug for its real cost? And, without Prohibition, what smuggler's territory would be worth a gang war? And why isn't this obvious to all of us?

It is because both guns and drugs have become fetishes to some people in America. They blame guns and drugs for all the intractable ills of society, and they never rest until they persuade the rest of us to share their deranged view of the evil power in an inanimate object.

They succeed, mainly, by lies and deception. They succeed by inducing the immediate experience of anxiety and horror by the mere mention of the words: Guns! Drugs! Notice your reactions. Once that response is in place, it is enough to make us accept any remedy they propose. An anxious person is an easy mark. They even persuade us to diminish the most precious possession of Americans, the one marveled at by every visitor and cherished by every immigrant, and the name of which is stamped on every coin we mint--Liberty. They say that liberty is just too dangerous or too expensive. They say we will have to do with less of it for our own good. That is the price they charge for their promise of our security.

Sincerely,

Amicus Populi


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To: tpaine
Is the court aware that you consider these parents "-- worthless human beings that were nothing but a drain on the system --"?

When they are high on these hard drugs, yes, and it often agrees. CPS tries way beyond what I would do to help these parents. Services from treatment, financial aid, job training, ect. If they do not get off the drugs, they remain worthless and a drain. The people, alone are not worthless, of course, the drugs make them that way. And I can tell you that, like I said, from talking to their family members who knew them before they got on the drugs.

741 posted on 04/04/2006 2:22:43 PM PDT by Texaggie79 (Did I just say that?)
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To: Texaggie79

The court agrees with you... Amazing.

Thanks kid, I had no idea that our system is this far gone. How did you get the credentials to become an "advocate"?



742 posted on 04/04/2006 3:18:04 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine
The court agrees with you... Amazing.

What would you call someone that does nothing but takes in gov and charity money, sits around high all day, let's their kids starve and run around unsupervised all day and night?

How did you get the credentials to become an "advocate"?

Over 40 hours of training with continuing hours required.

743 posted on 04/04/2006 3:24:41 PM PDT by Texaggie79 (Did I just say that?)
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To: Texaggie79
Wow, a whole 40 hrs... I'm sure impressed with this system. We the people are sure lucky that the children have trained avocates like you tex. Yep..

And thanks to prohibitive drug laws, we can get these kids out of these abusive parents homes quite easily, -- that's the best part.
744 posted on 04/04/2006 3:48:53 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine
Wow, a whole 40 hrs.. Obviously you aren't aware of what being a court advocate means. I don't make the choice of taking kids from parents. I have no say in that matter. I only see the kids after the court has decided to take them away.

And thanks to prohibitive drug laws, we can get these kids out of these abusive parents homes quite easily, -- that's the best part

Yep, I am in 100% in support of removing children from homes of hard drug addicts who do not get help.

745 posted on 04/04/2006 4:08:16 PM PDT by Texaggie79 (Did I just say that?)
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To: Texaggie79
Obviously you aren't aware of what being a court advocate means. I don't make the choice of taking kids from parents. I have no say in that matter. I only see the kids after the court has decided to take them away.

I advocate in court for abused children.

And thanks to laws against them, we can get these kids out of these abusive parents homes quite easily.

Yep, I am in 100% in support of removing children from homes of hard drug addicts who do not get help.

Yep, its a great system tex.
First we make addicts into criminals by prohibitive 'law'; then take their kids away if they don't seek "help", - help that would put them in jail for being addicts.
And thanks to those same prohibitive drug laws, we can get these kids out of these abusive parents homes quite easily, -- that's the best part. -- It's all so easy to control these "-- worthless human beings that were nothing but a drain on the system --" if we just ignore the Constitution.

746 posted on 04/04/2006 4:36:50 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine

Actually jail is hardly ever used, unless they commit real crimes like stealing or murder. Physical and sexual abuse hardly ever put the kids parents behind bars, and I stress hardly.

And the reason the kids need advocates is because their parent don't care enough about them to take care of them. Parents getting high that still take care of their kids.... well if that ever happened, I have yet to see that case.


747 posted on 04/04/2006 5:44:57 PM PDT by Texaggie79 (Did I just say that?)
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To: anobjectivist

MINUTE MEN of America

NRA of America

 We want to know.....what the hell are you waiting for?

Your endorsements could make the difference in the upcoming elections.  If you haven't noticed, you have the perfect candidate in the race.  The future of stopping illegal immigration and the individuals right to bear arms are at stake.  Failure to give your support to the right person could cost all freedom loving Americans dearly.  Your members want you to endorse a person that will stop illegal immigration and secure our rights to bear arms.  A true conservative is the only choice, no liberal republicans or democrats need apply.

Everyone needs to call NRA headquarters / Minute Men headquarters today and voice our opinions.  I have.

 


"When I am president, I will build a fence."

"My idea of gun control is a good, steady aim."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

748 posted on 12/24/2007 10:54:10 AM PST by glmjr
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