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'Bomb Texas': The psychological roots of anti-Americanism
Opinion Journal ^ | 01/13/03 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 01/12/2003 9:14:21 PM PST by Pokey78

Edited on 04/23/2004 12:05:07 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

With this past autumn's discussion in Washington over what to do about Iraq there arrived also the season of protests. They were everywhere. In the national newspapers, Common Cause published a full-page letter, backed by "7,000 signatories," demanding (as if it had been outlawed) a "full and open debate" before any American action against Iraq. More radical cries emanated from Not in Our Name, a nationwide "project" spearheaded by Noam Chomsky and affiliates, which likewise ran full-page advertisements in the major papers decrying America's "war without limit," organized "Days of Resistance" in New York and elsewhere, and in general made known its feeling that the United States rather than Iraq poses the real threat to world peace. At one late-October march in Washington, there were signs proclaiming "I Love Iraq, Bomb Texas," and depicting President Bush wearing a Hitler mustache and giving the Nazi salute.


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1 posted on 01/12/2003 9:14:21 PM PST by Pokey78
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2 posted on 01/12/2003 9:16:51 PM PST by Pokey78
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3 posted on 01/12/2003 9:18:47 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Heuristic Hiker
Victor Davis Hanson ping.
4 posted on 01/12/2003 9:25:35 PM PST by Utah Girl (Here I come to save the day, Mighty Mouse is on his way!!!)
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To: Thud
ping
5 posted on 01/12/2003 9:41:54 PM PST by Dark Wing
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To: Pokey78
Excellent essay. Thank you for the post.
6 posted on 01/12/2003 10:14:32 PM PST by Maynerd
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To: Pokey78
Should be required reading for every high school student in the country.
7 posted on 01/12/2003 10:38:29 PM PST by lorrainer
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To: Pokey78
In [their] protected world, ..., it is not surprising that those most critical of America are not the purported victims of its supposedly rapacious capitalist system--farm workers, car mechanics or welders--but [instead] those in the arts, universities, media and government who have the time and leisure to contemplate utopian perfection without firsthand and daily exposure to backbreaking physical labor, unrepentant bullies or unapologetically violent criminals. ... [and] enables a fanciful shift from thinking in the immediate and concrete to idle musings of the distant and abstract.

For many, today's affluence is also accompanied by an unprecedented sense of security.

Long, long read, but I found it worth every paragraph. Good insight, and synopsis. I will bookmark, print, and highlight this article to show around to some of my friends and intellectual competitors.

PING!!!

8 posted on 01/12/2003 10:59:25 PM PST by AFPhys
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To: lorrainer
Worth Repeating. Excellent, excellent essay.

Big BUMP
9 posted on 01/12/2003 11:13:48 PM PST by baseballmom
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To: Pokey78
Here's a keeper. This guy is on his game today.
10 posted on 01/12/2003 11:19:00 PM PST by beckett
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To: Pokey78
Israel could give over the entire West Bank, suffer 10,000 dead from suicide bombers, and apologize formally for its existence, and it would still be despised by American and European intellectuals for being what it is--Western, prosperous, confident, and successful amid a sea of abject self-induced failure.

Sums up the entire Middle East conflict in one sentence. Slam dunk.
11 posted on 01/12/2003 11:48:07 PM PST by July 4th
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To: Pokey78
Thanks. An exceptional article.
12 posted on 01/13/2003 2:54:59 AM PST by KeyWest
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To: Pokey78
Bump for later reading.
13 posted on 01/13/2003 3:18:58 AM PST by MindyW
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To: Pokey78
The superciliousness of the educated knows no end...

Spot on!
Thanks, Pokey78.

14 posted on 01/13/2003 3:31:26 AM PST by metesky
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To: Pokey78
Thanks for the ping....a worthy read.
15 posted on 01/13/2003 4:10:08 AM PST by xp38
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To: Pokey78
Bump.
16 posted on 01/13/2003 4:21:17 AM PST by Rocko
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To: Pokey78
Long, but worthy read.
17 posted on 01/13/2003 4:38:38 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Pokey78
The example of Rome, in short, is an apt one,

Very true, but not quite for the reasons this fellow cites.

The old right takes solace in the fact that our own cultural decay was/is well along before the thirst for empire set in.

18 posted on 01/13/2003 5:03:07 AM PST by iconoclast
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To: Pokey78
Heh. I read this around two in the morning, said "Wow!" woke up my wife to read it to her, and got a "Wow!" from her as well.
19 posted on 01/13/2003 5:15:11 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian (Not the usual reason my wife says "Wow!" when I wake her at 2 a.m. 8>))
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To: Pokey78
---snip---
As in the medieval church or among Soviet apparatchiks, the pull of groupspeak is always strong among compliant and opportunistic elites. For today's intellectuals, professors and artists, being on the team pays real dividends when it comes to tenure, promotion, publication, reviews, lecture invitations, social acceptance and psychic reassurance. And the dividends are compound: One is a lockstep member of one's crowd and one enjoys the frisson of dissidence, of being at variance, but always so comfortably at variance, with one's benighted fellow citizens.




Brilliant article - one to be printed out, studied, and used (tactfullly of course) in discussions with 'groupthinkers.'
20 posted on 01/13/2003 6:35:14 AM PST by maica
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To: Travis McGee; Freee-dame
"postmodernist" anti-American liberal elite bump. Worth studying!
21 posted on 01/13/2003 6:39:20 AM PST by maica
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To: Pokey78
the anti-American reflex could be linked with some rigor to the influence of Marxism

Nothing has changed. I've been reading an interesting account of the Mexican War. It's amazing to see how the arguments of the anti-war folks have not changed all that much over time. I could have changed a few of the names and dates and we would be hard pressed to differentiate whether the public debate was in the late 1840's or 2002-03. Not surprising was the opposition of Horace Greeley, New York Tribune editor who ran Marx's articles.

I just received Victor D. Hansen's new book, An Autumn at War, which is a compilation of many of his articles written since 9/11. I haven't read it yet, but it's right by my bed where I can get to it easily. They are short--3 to 4 pages each--making it an easy book to read for those on the run.

22 posted on 01/13/2003 6:49:58 AM PST by twigs
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To: Pokey78


23 posted on 01/13/2003 6:50:55 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Just for grins: http://muffin.eggheads.org/images/funny/dogsmile.jpg)
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To: Pokey78; Petronius
Earlier Romans knew what it was to be Roman, why it was at least better than the alternative, and why their culture had to be defended. Later in ignorance they forgot what they knew, in pride mocked who they were, and in consequence disappeared.





24 posted on 01/13/2003 6:56:45 AM PST by Paul Ross (Golitsyn is being proved right, more so, every day)
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To: Pokey78
Not only is this article brilliant, it is in its own compact way a DemocraticUnderground.com primer, a kind of field guide to the modern leftist radical.

Bump for a must read!

25 posted on 01/13/2003 7:03:36 AM PST by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: Pokey78
Thanks for the ping.

Absolutely awesome article.
26 posted on 01/13/2003 7:04:10 AM PST by conservativemusician (gotta love a conservative intellectual)
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To: iconoclast
;^) bump.
27 posted on 01/13/2003 7:12:27 AM PST by headsonpikes
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To: Pokey78
A gem of an article, thanks for the ping.

About the only humble thing I would add would be the response of the hate-America left in the first few days (two months, actually) after September 11.

There was a lot of talk that the left was silent because they finally saw the light when the one unthinkable thing, mass destruction inside the United States, actually happened. Petty leftist causes like affirmative action, gun control, speech control, tax increases, and race pimping were dead, because they would be hooted off the now-serious wartime American stage.

What really happened was the scope of the evil temporarily took away the voice of the left, and forced them to examine, for the first time in their lives, their core beliefs. That examination told them that their beliefs were still the only proper ones to hold, so it was still somehow America's fault. It took about two months for the first trial balloons to emerge from their test kitchens, with more coming as they realized they wouldn't be lynched by the America they still hated as their vile messages became even more twisted and disgusting.

Having once again made the world safe for socialism, they are attempting to rebuild the glory days of Vietnam, where they can compete in spewing hate about the evil America, knowing full well that not only are they tolerated, but that they can freely celebrate their "courage".

America's upcoming victories will be both hateful and depressing to them. I can only hope that they send themselves to North Korea to be "human shields". Their only true value to humanity will be as fertilizer.

28 posted on 01/13/2003 7:14:28 AM PST by 300winmag
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To: Pokey78
Their creed is really a malady, and it cries out to be confronted and exposed.
Beat me to the punch!
29 posted on 01/13/2003 7:14:55 AM PST by damncat
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To: Paul Ross
bump for sanity
30 posted on 01/13/2003 7:18:30 AM PST by woofie
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To: Pokey78
Warnings in late September 2001 about the perils of Afghanistan--the peaks, the ice, the warring factions, Ramadan, jihad, and our fated rendezvous with the graveyard of mighty armies gone before us--faded by early November in the face of rapid and overwhelming American victory.

Ahh yes, I remember that time of "quagmire". I like to remind the liberals that President Bush did what only Alexander the Great accomplished - he conquer4ed Afgahnistan.

31 posted on 01/13/2003 7:24:59 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Pokey78
Israel could give over the entire West Bank, suffer 10,000 dead from suicide bombers, and apologize formally for its existence, and it would still be despised by American and European intellectuals for being what it is--Western, prosperous, confident, and successful amid a sea of abject self-induced failure.

If people in these oil rich nations and their Mustim neighbors are starving and without jobs, exactly whose fault is that? I don't see Saudi Arabia hiring 'Palestinians' to do the jobs that Americans have been doing for years in the Kingdom. The Palestinian refugees were ignored by their Muslim brothers except when they were being riled up to hate Israel and the US. The Muslim countries could have made life easier for those people they scared out of Israel in the late 40's, but they didn't because it didn't serve their political purpose.

32 posted on 01/13/2003 7:34:10 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: Paul Ross
Earlier Romans knew what it was to be Roman, why it was at least better than the alternative, and why their culture had to be defended. Later in ignorance they forgot what they knew, in pride mocked who they were, and in consequence disappeared.

That is a great sentence and it describes the anti-American, anti-western, anti-Christian left to a tee.

33 posted on 01/13/2003 7:46:44 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Pokey78
This is a great article and very true.

Postmodernism and multi"cult"uralism make up the perfect worldview for the left. Unlike socialism, which could be proven a failure wherever it was tried, postmodernism is not subject to real world tests. Only endless debate can follow as to the question of whether there is any truth to its tenets. Multi"cult"uralism allows the lefties to indulge in romanticizing the primitive and affirms the original lefty idea that "in a state of nature, man is inclined towards good behavior". Hence only because man is corrupted-in this case by horrible America-does the perfect utopia fail to come to pass.

Davis really nails the lefty mindset with this one.

34 posted on 01/13/2003 7:55:44 AM PST by 91B
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fyi.He's good ;-)
35 posted on 01/13/2003 7:56:17 AM PST by habs4ever
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To: Pokey78
Is there a consistent theme here?

The consistent theme is: all of these naysayers, critics, harpies, and pseudo-intellectuals are Democrats. Actually, they are communists who vote Democrat. They are America-hating liars and deceivers.

As for the foreign critics, naysayers, harpies, and pseudo-intellectuals: they are all America-hating statists, left-overs from the "social democratic" eras in their own governments/societies when American aid and Cold War support and protection gave these sad societies the false sense that they could pursue their utopian dreams of Socialism without any consequence. Well, the consequence is: Socialism doesn't work. It may appear to work as long as you can ignore your own responsibilities for national defense.

America's representative democracy and free market capitalism endures as the "shining city on a hill" thanks to leaders like Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush.

Thanks for the ping, Pokey!

36 posted on 01/13/2003 7:56:51 AM PST by ReleaseTheHounds
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To: Pokey78
What a GREAT article!

Victor Davis Hanson has said about all there needs to be said on this subject. He has adroitly pulled back the Liberal, "intellectual" KKK sheet and revealed the swarming maggots and wholesale putrification underneath!

37 posted on 01/13/2003 8:04:04 AM PST by Gritty
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To: Pokey78; All
Bookmarking this one because all of the replies are worth saving and re-reading, as well as Hanson's words
38 posted on 01/13/2003 8:54:46 AM PST by maica
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To: madfly; Ernest_at_the_Beach
fyi
39 posted on 01/13/2003 9:51:17 AM PST by Free the USA
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To: Pokey78
This article was so long, but I just couldn't stop reading it. It is perhaps the best summation of modern liberal bullsh*tism I have read. It really nails em. I am glad there are those who write so well, who can take some of the nebulous concepts I have floating in my head, and package them this well. This is a MUST READ, and should have a MUST READ alert in the title.
40 posted on 01/13/2003 9:51:27 AM PST by Paradox
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To: Pokey78
You really need to have a Victor Davis Hanson ping list. This is just so perfect.

Tenure has ensured that tens of thousands of professors who work nine months a year cannot be fired for being unproductive or mediocre scholars, much less for being abject failures in the classroom.

Universities exist to provide employment to men who cannot make a living with their hands or their heads. - Florence King, attributed to her father.

41 posted on 01/13/2003 9:52:56 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets
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To: Pokey78
"Some of its fumes, though, still linger in the doctrines of radical egalitarianism espoused by postmodern relativists and multiculturalists and by now instilled, in suitably diluted and presentable form, in several generations of college and high-school students. Hence, for example, the regular put-down of George W. Bush as a "Manichean"--for could anything be more self-evidently retrograde than a view of our present conflict as a war of good versus evil, or anything more simplistic than relying on such "universal" arbiters of human behavior as freedom, pluralism, and religious tolerance?"

I heard a Q&A forum between college students and a sitting supreme court justice on C-SPAN the other day. The justice quoted a line in the Declaration of Independence:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."
He then posed the question, "What is the operative word to you?"
Her answer, "the word 'We'." She reasoned that these principles only apply to the US, and "who are we to impose on others?" arguement. A 'live and let live" attitude.

This is a perfect example of moral bankruptcy. To say this is to believe that "there are no absolutes" (which is the ultimate in hypocracy because this claim is an absolute).

Sure, saying "live and let live" to another American is called freedom. But try saying "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" do not not apply to a starving North Korean, a cuban citizen, a moslem condemned to death because she committed adultry, or any dissenter in Iraq or Iran.

"Live and let live" can mean "live and let die or be enslaved" depending on who you are talking to. "Who are we to impose ourselves on other?" We are Americans, that's who. I hold that freedom is superior. We live this truth every day. The evidence is seen in our past and present. The US is the world's only "superpower" because it is the product of our principles and values. Who are we to deny others of our values?

Freedom must be promoted wherever we do not find it. Period.

42 posted on 01/13/2003 10:15:59 AM PST by rudypoot
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To: Pokey78
FANTASTIC ARTICLE! Bump
43 posted on 01/13/2003 10:19:57 AM PST by finnman69
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To: Pokey78
He's good.
44 posted on 01/13/2003 10:21:28 AM PST by redbaiter
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To: Pokey78
I highly recommend

The Killing of History: How Literary Critics and Social Theorists are Murdering Our Past -- by Keith Windschuttle

for those of you interested in the who's and what's of the postmodernistic neomarxist takeover of the social sciences and liberal arts. Some good scary stuff in there....

45 posted on 01/13/2003 10:41:00 AM PST by stands2reason (blah, blah, blah....)
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To: Pokey78
Excellent article, it deconstructs the guilt and envy angle of anti-Americanism perfectly. But I have a problem:

Predictions of quagmire in Iraq/Kosovo/Afghanistan can't be ignored.

Eleven years and thousands of bombing runs later, we are about to ramp the war with Iraq back up. We have kept troops in neighboring countries and patrolled their airspace constantly. Call it what you will, we've never stopped being at war with Iraq, and if it has been ten cheap years of war in casualty terms, those are still our tax dollars fueling the planes and buying the bombs.

Bush visited our 5,000 troops still in Kosovo six weeks before 9-11, and two and a half years after they were posted there. They are still there.

The Russians "conquered" Afghanistan in three days. A decade later, they slunk home. Until Karzai can leave Kabul with less than a company of Marines, it ain't over.

I'm no peacenik, but as they say in the NFL - don't run before you catch the ball.
46 posted on 01/13/2003 11:03:50 AM PST by m1911
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To: *Clash of Civilizatio
Indexing.
47 posted on 01/13/2003 11:18:31 AM PST by denydenydeny
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To: habs4ever
I'm constantly amused by the new commie mantra that liberal voices have been silenced. As this piece shows, just about all we hear are liberal voices unless we hunt for conservatives. And the farther from 9/11 we go, the louder the Left will get.
48 posted on 01/13/2003 12:41:49 PM PST by Deb
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To: Deb
The Left never pay for their errors.Look at how many in DC fail "upward", but the leftists can always "prove" when a conservative has blown policy.Jimmah gets a nice glass sculpture and a pat on the head in Stockholm and is fetted still...*groan*
49 posted on 01/13/2003 2:45:27 PM PST by habs4ever
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To: KC_Conspirator
he conquer4ed Afgahnistan.

IMHO our Emperor conquers about as well as you type/spell.

50 posted on 01/13/2003 2:54:35 PM PST by iconoclast
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