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Prosecutor drops charges in shooting of 4 officers
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| Jan 07,03
| Allison Klein and Del Quentin Wilber
Posted on 01/13/2003 6:43:29 PM PST by Leisler
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posted on
01/13/2003 6:43:29 PM PST
by
Leisler
To: Leisler
Well, I'll be...
Something that finally makes sense.
That's really the essense of it: If you want to serve a warrant, wear a uniform. Show me the warrant. Bust in the door and you'll get shot like any other burglar.
Wow.
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posted on
01/13/2003 6:46:10 PM PST
by
Ramius
To: Leisler
Detectives are often worried about giving drug dealers time to flush drugs down toilets Any amount of drugs that can be flushed down a toilet isn't worth a raid.
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posted on
01/13/2003 6:48:18 PM PST
by
Ramius
To: Travis McGee
Read this account of terrible police work.
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posted on
01/13/2003 6:53:05 PM PST
by
maica
To: Leisler
And now the cops should be jailed for breaking and entering.
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posted on
01/13/2003 6:53:15 PM PST
by
per loin
To: Ramius
Amen, Brother! Cops are acting like jack boot Nazis...running around kicking in doors based on an anonymous tip. Maybe they should have staked out the house and once he left the property simply place him under arrest then have him lead them back into the home for a search. Hopefully this will send a message to cops all over the country that this is still AMERICA and the masses still have rights. It's actually weird that more cops haven't been killed breaking down doors. If I was a cop I'd want those inside to know it!
To: Ramius
Any amount of drugs that can be flushed down a toilet isn't worth a raid. You got that right. Definitely not worth anyone's life, either.
Comment #9 Removed by Moderator
To: Leisler; humblegunner; TexasCowboy; Squantos; Shooter 2.5
Damn good job. Anyone kicking my door in can expect the same (or worse).
Stay safe; stay armed.
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posted on
01/13/2003 7:02:20 PM PST
by
Eaker
(Where did I leave the keys to the snow plow ma????)
To: Ramius
Out here, a few years back we had a rash of dopers who were kicking in doors home invasion style robbing folks for drug money and in a few cases raped and killed. For a few very tense days in San Diego we had a crew who were dressing up as SWAT guys and even yelling POLICE before kicking in the door.
I made up my mind then and there that if someone, anyone kicked in my door shots were being thrown and somebody was gonna die.
I have nothing in my home illegal; I dont engage in any illegal activity therefore no cop should be knocking on my door with a battering ram.
These dynamic raids and the whole war on drugs have gone beyond anything most sane people would stand for.
I wonder what our founding fathers would say about them?
TMMT
To: Terry Mross
That's just it. Nowadays every little po-dunk town thinks they need a "swat" team because they like all the neato toys and the black jumpsuits. Problem is, they then have to justify all the cost by using them for things that don't need that sort of force.
There are only a handful of professionals that truly have the time, the budget and the training to be a *real* SWAT team, a la the FBI HRT, Navy Seals. Perhaps some of the bigger police departements like LA, NY could devote the right people to this sort of training. But most police departments just buy all the gear, get some MP-5's and black jumpsuits and say they have a "SWAT" team. It's stupid, and all it does is get some good cops and good citizens killed because they're using them in the wrong place at the wrong time and for the wrong reasons.
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posted on
01/13/2003 7:06:16 PM PST
by
Ramius
To: Leisler
Good news for a citizen who defended his home from these goons who happened to wear badges. No-knock raids are never acceptable in a free society, as the lives of citizens are no less important than the lives of policemen. To illustrate how much damage has been wrought, criminals have learned how to play the game; home invaders now routinely shout "Police!" as they kick down their victims' doors.
To: Terry Mross
Maybe they should have staked out the house and once he left the property simply place him under arrest then have him lead them back into the home for a search. I make this same comment every time there is a thread regarding no-knock raids. Much safer for everyone to just wait for the suspect to go out in public and then arrest him/her when no one is likely to get hurt.
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To: Always A Marine
Come to think of it, wouldn't a "no knock" raid be against the fourth amendment?
To: Leisler
Cauthorne needs to get the Hell out of Dodge...
His life and freedom are forfeit if he stays where these JBT's can get to him.
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posted on
01/13/2003 7:17:04 PM PST
by
DWSUWF
To: Kuleana
Six rounds, four hits under pressure...not bad. Not an easy task with a .45 cal handgun. Also noticed that the cops missed everything.
To: Terry Mross
Maybe they should have staked out the house and once he left the property simply place him under arrest then have him lead them back into the home for a search. They were just apeing the methods of their federal brethern in the DEA and BATF.
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posted on
01/13/2003 7:17:53 PM PST
by
El Gato
To: Ramius
"If you want to serve a warrant, wear a uniform."
Amen. When the police dress and act like home invasion robbery gangbangers, they can expect to get the same respect. The founders wrote the second ammendment in part to make sure that the state obeys and respects the Constitution. A simple knock on the door by a uniformed officer could have prevented all of this.
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posted on
01/13/2003 7:28:04 PM PST
by
SSN558
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