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Maybe it is time to give peace a chance
Oak Lawn (IL) Reporter ^ | 1/23/03 | Michael M. Bates

Posted on 01/21/2003 7:59:56 AM PST by mikeb704

Like many Americans, I’ve been ambivalent about what the United States should do about Iraq. I have no doubt that Saddam Hussein is a murderous thug who wouldn’t think twice about letting loose nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons. He hates America to the point of irrationality. His presence greatly increases instability in the Middle East.

At the same time, I’m not certain that Saddam’s Iraq is that huge a direct threat to us. I wonder if it’s absolutely necessary to commit thousands of our soldiers to protect us from the madman of Baghdad.

My doubts were set aside recently when seeing what sort of people were lining up to oppose military intervention against Iraq. A lot of the same old nuts who cheered on Ho Chi Minh decades ago are b-a-a-a-ck. Ramsey Clark, former attorney general under Lyndon Johnson and a man who rarely has heard of a dictator he doesn’t like, is one of the antiwar movement’s leaders.

The protesters are against much more than war, though. The agenda they advance is a veritable laundry list of Leftist notions. In the LA Weekly, liberal writer David Corn outlined some of the demands heard in Washington last October at a demonstration:

"Free Mumia. Free the Cuban 5. Free Jamal Al-Amin (that’s H. Rap Brown, the former Black Panther convicted in March of killing a sheriff’s deputy in 2000). And free Leonard Peltier. Also, defeat Zionism. And, while we’re at it, let’s bring the capitalist system to a halt."

Mumia Abu-Jamal, like Jamal Al-Amin, is a convicted cop killer. You’ll be relieved to know, however, that Leonard Peltier is not a convicted cop killer. He murdered two FBI agents.

Naturally, the mainstream media want us to believe that the antiwar demonstrators are mainstream too. For last week’s demonstration, ABC’s Geoff Morrell reported on a doctor and his honor roll student daughter who just had to make it to Washington, so "they rode a bus all night from Asheville, North Carolina. On board were businessmen, soccer moms and military veterans - all members of the same church."

According to a report from Knight Ridder Newspapers: "The protesters are diverse, decentralized and disagree on some issues. They include longtime pacifists, Persian Gulf War veterans, people who think President Bush stole the 2000 election, people who voted for him, kids with purple hair, CEOs, labor organizers, academics, churchgoers, even the inevitable soccer mom."

Oh, yes, they are so very diverse. The coalition organizing last week’s demonstration in Washington is International ANSWER (Act Now to Stop War and End Racism). It was formed after September 11th. You might think the group was created to protest terrorism. Don’t be silly. ANSWER was started to oppose U.S. domination over the rest of the world.

Hooking up with ANSWER to protest action against Iraq are diverse organizations such as the New Communist Party of the Netherlands, California’s Tri-Valley Communities Against a Radioactive Environment, the Heidelberg Forum Against Militarism and War, the National Lawyers Guild and Women’s International League for Peace and Freedom. Also signing up were members of diverse groups like the Texas Death Penalty Abolition Movement, National Coalition for the Homeless, Workers World Party, and Queers For Racial & Economic Justice. And we couldn’t overlook Grandmothers for a Just World, the Irish Republican Socialist Committees of North America, the Neville Chamberlain Society, and People Against Bush's Nazi –ism.

These groups give me a severe case of the willies. With outfits like this opposed to military intervention in Iraq, it seemed to me that snuffing Saddam pronto was the only sensible course of action.

Then I heard about Unreasonable Women Baring Witness. Organized by a woman named Donna Sheehan, these women voice their antiwar views by using their nude bodies to spell out "peace" and "no war." What’s particularly worrisome is that women as old as 83 are participating. Mz Sheehan is herself 72 years old.

Just visualizing protests like this has moved me from the willies to a severe case of the heebie-jeebies. Foisting their naked selves on an unsuspecting public is beyond cruel and unusual punishment. The gals have convinced me. As Comrade Lennon sang, all we are saying is give peace a chance. At least until the little old ladies promise to keep their clothes on.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: antiwar; baringwitness; demonstrations; leftists; quislings
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1 posted on 01/21/2003 7:59:56 AM PST by mikeb704
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To: mikeb704
Anybody that can't connect the dots between 9/11 and Iraq, direct or indirect, is a fool.

Ignore the fools....Let's Roll.

2 posted on 01/21/2003 8:07:29 AM PST by zarf
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To: All
Interesting.
3 posted on 01/21/2003 8:15:52 AM PST by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: mikeb704
I don't get Hebe jeebies, but I do get the same sense of out right loathing that I had in the late 60's and early 70's. Some of the same idiots,(like Joanie B and others) are out on the street mouthing the same identical words that helped to slaughter thousands of American soldiers in Nam.

They helped kill my buddies by causing our limp wrist-ed Congress to pressure the Armed forces by lack of funding and impossible rules of engagement.

I may be off base on this, but I consider them to be traitorous bastards all.

4 posted on 01/21/2003 8:16:58 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: zarf
All we are saying, is give WAR a chance...
5 posted on 01/21/2003 8:17:40 AM PST by Republic of Texas
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6 posted on 01/21/2003 8:19:30 AM PST by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: mikeb704
Oh, yes, they are so very diverse.

Proves "diversity" is when people look different but think alike.

7 posted on 01/21/2003 8:23:21 AM PST by lonestar
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To: mikeb704
We GAVE peace a chance.

Now it's time to give war a chance, dammit!

8 posted on 01/21/2003 8:24:52 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: mikeb704
The best way to ensure peace is to kill the enemy.
9 posted on 01/21/2003 8:25:50 AM PST by MrBambaLaMamba
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To: MrBambaLaMamba
"Now I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."

Gen. George S. Patton Jr.

10 posted on 01/21/2003 8:33:49 AM PST by BureaucratusMaximus (if we're not going to act like a constitutional republic...lets be the best empire we can be)
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To: mikeb704
Well, doing nothing is certainly a legitimate option. If you're willing to endure the consequences, that is. There's the rub - the same people who are now lecturing about the immorality of armed conflict will be the ones damning us for not acting when Saddam again attacks his neighbors, or when undeniable word of what he is currently doing to the people of Iraq finally filters past the general denial in the world media. No one wanted to believe what Hitler was up to in the camps, either. If we are to believe unconditionally that "war is not the answer" we are led ineluctably to the conclusion that intervention was not justified in that case either.

The problem isn't that the "peace" movement finds violence unacceptable, it's that its adherents find nearly any level of violence acceptable as long as it isn't us who are doing it. That myopic form of morality is not a recipe for stability in either that region or in the world.

11 posted on 01/21/2003 8:41:41 AM PST by Billthedrill
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The problem isn't that the "peace" movement finds violence unacceptable, it's that its adherents find nearly any level of violence acceptable as long as it isn't us who are doing it.

Actually, they find it acceptable only if its a leftie that's doing it.

They went nuts over the Nicaragua contras, and Sharon or Netenyahu defensive attacks on Palestinian nutcases. But where were they when Clinton bombed Yugoslavia/Serbia? These types never said a word when Stalin, Pol Pot, and the other socialist/communist nutcases were killing millions of people.

12 posted on 01/21/2003 8:54:08 AM PST by expatpat
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To: wirestripper
Some of the same idiots,(like Joanie B and others) are out on the street mouthing the same identical words that helped to slaughter thousands of American soldiers in Nam.

I am old enough to remember, it wasn't Joan Baez but General William Westmoreland who helped to slaughter thousands of American soldiers in Vietnam. Joan was never there!

13 posted on 01/21/2003 8:54:33 AM PST by TightSqueeze
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To: TightSqueeze
That is perhaps unfair. General Westmoreland was basically following idiotic orders from above but did make some flawed judgement calls.
Perhaps he should have refused/resigned rather than allow the war to be prosecuted the way it was but hindsight is always 20/20.
14 posted on 01/21/2003 9:11:28 AM PST by nomorecameljocks
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To: mikeb704
PIZZA
PIZZA

OK, I gave pizza chants!

The world surely is a more beautiful place. Saddam is singing Kumbaya even as I post this.

15 posted on 01/21/2003 9:19:55 AM PST by N. Theknow
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To: N. Theknow
Saddam is singing Kumbaya even as I post this.

As long as he keeps his clothes on . . . unlike the elderly babes who are lending him aid and comfort, just as they did for Ho Chi Minh 35 years ago.

16 posted on 01/21/2003 10:50:13 AM PST by mikeb704
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To: Billthedrill
If we are to believe unconditionally that "war is not the answer". . .

There are, of course, things worse than war.

17 posted on 01/21/2003 10:52:11 AM PST by mikeb704
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To: zarf
Anybody that can't connect the dots between 9/11 and Iraq, direct or indirect, is a fool.

I'll take that constructively.

18 posted on 01/21/2003 10:53:47 AM PST by mikeb704
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To: mikeb704
Re your # 1... I?m not certain that Saddam?s Iraq is that huge a direct threat to us.

Can anyone be certain? Where is trust in our government and military?

It is truly amazing that people can project anti-war rhetoric, some even with actions, ....all the while having not a shred of strategic, tactical, or war related intelligence from the CIA - Interpol etc.....Conclusions based entirely on media input.


19 posted on 01/21/2003 11:01:09 AM PST by rmvh
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To: TightSqueeze
Re your # 13,,,I am old enough to remember, it wasn't Joan Baez but General William Westmoreland who helped to slaughter thousands of American soldiers in Vietnam. Joan was never there!

Totally off the wall comment!

This war was lost becasue it was tactically directed on a day to day basis from Washington. Westmoreland and his command had to follow moronic directions as they were issued.

President Johnson, you may recall, took his lead from Mr. Mcnamara... a bright little weasel who's primary experience and forte was selling cars.

The media lies and fabricated news,... along with Jane Fonda wannabes who took to the streets in supoort of their puppeteers,.... entirely decived the American public!!!

It is well understood in the military that these two imbeciles were in large part responsible for the slaughter of some 50,000 Americans.


20 posted on 01/21/2003 11:14:31 AM PST by rmvh
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