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Congressman Billybob Sez: Historians against History (HAH!)
United Press International ^ | 30 January 2003 | Congressman Billybob (J. Armor, Esq.)

Posted on 01/31/2003 10:35:25 AM PST by Congressman Billybob

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A big thank-you to FReepers for the thread here which inspired this article. This is entry number 341 in the continuing series entitled, "Know your enemies."

Enjoy. And lemme know what you think.

1 posted on 01/31/2003 10:35:25 AM PST by Congressman Billybob
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To: Congressman Billybob
Brilliant....simply brilliant, CB.
2 posted on 01/31/2003 10:37:21 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Congressman Billybob
How about... Historians Against Hillary
3 posted on 01/31/2003 10:40:20 AM PST by craig61a
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To: Congressman Billybob
At this point, the line from Captain Renault in "Casablanca" should come to mind. "Round up the usual suspects."

Yes sir, the usual suspects. And thanks for the sampling of the signers, how very typical and pathetic of them.

4 posted on 01/31/2003 10:43:42 AM PST by xJones
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To: Congressman Billybob
Three from UW Madison...yep, that sounds like the "Midwest chapter of the Kremlin".....glad to see nothing has changed since 1972.
5 posted on 01/31/2003 10:51:06 AM PST by Keith
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To: Congressman Billybob
Ex-cellent...
6 posted on 01/31/2003 11:07:41 AM PST by Jonah Hex
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To: Congressman Billybob
Great stuff, Billybob!

I am reminded of David Low's cartoons from the '30s, in particular one showing Hitler (in Tyrolean costume with a beer stein) speaking with a properly seated and prim Sir John Simon, saying "The more we arm the peacefuler we'll be" (or words to that effect) and Sir John replying something like: "ummm..... well..... provisionally.... perhaps." Also the lovely one of Hitler and Stalin bowing to each other over the prostate corpse labelled "Poland" with Hitler saying "The scum of the Earth, I believe?" and Stalin replying, "The Bloody Assassin of the Workers, I presume?"

Both are reproduced (in the 1966 edition anyway) of probable signer Gordon Craig's Europe since 1815.

I remember the early '70s when I was a graduate student in history, and young leftist graduate students were beginning the long march through the institution with the connivance of their left-liberal and sometimes socialist tenured professor-mentors. So, this doesn't come as much of a surprise.

I am reminded of Santayana's famous comment that those who fail to learn from history are condemned to repeat it and Croce's remark that man does not have a nature, what he has is history.

7 posted on 01/31/2003 11:16:59 AM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Mesopotamia Esse Delendam)
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As an historian, that went to a University in NJ with 'proud to be' card carrying members of the communist party as professors, this comes as no surprise. I have often posted on the threads on this website, that Historians are divided into two groups, Revisionist (liberal) and Traditional (conservative). As a traditional historian, I have a hard time with my revisionist 'comrades' who continually rewrite history to reflect a liberal political agenda. They twist the facts.

BE VERY CAREFUL with what you see and hear on the History channel, or any other history program on TV or film.

REMEMBER, that the majority of these programs are made by liberals in the entertainment industry. Guys like Ken Burns and others on public television have an agenda that they want to re-educate the masses with.

There are still traditional historians who write the known facts. They tend to sell more books and are revered by the followers (Even though recently dead, Stephan Ambrose is an example).

"When Historians forget that History begins with a good Story, They end up speaking only to themselves." -- Anon.

Revisionist should take head.
8 posted on 01/31/2003 11:17:15 AM PST by uncbuck (Send lawyers, guns and money.)
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ping
9 posted on 01/31/2003 11:19:37 AM PST by madfly
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To: Congressman Billybob
Fantastic work CB. Absolutely fantastic. The Mumia link sure keeps coming up. Sick puppies, the lot of them.....
10 posted on 01/31/2003 11:23:15 AM PST by eureka! (Memo to Rats-Keep shrieking and moving left. Thanks!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
How much money did their Uncle Soddomite send to these various groups to finance their anti America and pro Mass Murdering Soddomite marches and outbursts?
11 posted on 01/31/2003 11:25:03 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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The web address in your article is wrong. Correct address is http://chnm.gmu.edu/rhr/haw.htm
12 posted on 01/31/2003 11:37:01 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Congressman Billybob
Another excellent piece!

Thanks for sharing it!

13 posted on 01/31/2003 11:44:02 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Nuke Saddam ( Bush is thinking about it ))
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To: Congressman Billybob
A follow-up on my earlier post.

I checked all of the signers from the University of California, Santa Barbara, where I was a graduate student some 30+ years ago. There were six names listed.

Two of them are not listed among the faculty on the USCB History Department's website.

Of the four who are listed, two list their specialties as "U.S. Women's History", one is listed as a specialist in "U.S. Public Policy" and the other is listed as a "U.S. Labor" historian. Not one of them describes a specialty in European history, Middle Eastern, Asian or African history.

The department's website lists 9 historians whom I knew as a graduate student, eminent men in European, American, African and Asian history. Many of those men are liberals, one was (is?) an avowed socialist and historian of socialism. He did not sign, nor did any of the eminent sernior faculty sign that absurd statement.

What this means, is that it the "historians" who signed this statement are those whose professional interests have not lead them to study any of the significant events in the history of Western Civilization that might give them any perspective in the matter of the coming War with Iraq. Indeed, there opinions are no more valuable than any lay persons.

14 posted on 01/31/2003 12:00:51 PM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Mesopotamia Esse Delendam)
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To: CatoRenasci; Congressman Billybob
What a surprise!
15 posted on 01/31/2003 12:09:50 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Nuke Saddam ( Bush is thinking about it ))
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Thank you VERY much for catching the error in the website address for "Historians against the War." I have already sent the correction to UPI and my editor has acknowledged it has gone on the wire. I've also corrected it to my mailing list, and on my own website.

Somewhere on the order of 100 people had read this before you caught the error. Thank you. Of course, I should have caught it in advance, by checking the link by clicking on it. (Computer 101 says to use that proof-reading technique.)

Cordially,

John / Billybob

16 posted on 01/31/2003 12:21:26 PM PST by Congressman Billybob
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To: Congressman Billybob
Big Time MEGA B U M P ! ! !
17 posted on 01/31/2003 12:38:02 PM PST by Bigun
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To: Congressman Billybob
I do need to get that "Fry Mumia" sign.
18 posted on 01/31/2003 12:49:27 PM PST by CPT Clay
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To: Congressman Billybob
**Outstanding**
19 posted on 01/31/2003 12:51:45 PM PST by TwoStep (Ignorance can be cured, stupid is forever!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Always happy to help stomp on dishonest lefties. Ain't FR spiffy? Several thousand volunteer copy editors at your disposal -- somebody was bound to catch it!
20 posted on 01/31/2003 1:17:40 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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