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BREAKING: NBC News finds Jan 30 NASA Memo showing serious concern about tile damage!
NBC News | February 3, 2003 | Jay Barbree

Posted on 02/03/2003 6:03:22 AM PST by Timesink

Developing. Watch MSNBC for latest. Internal memo shows some engineers believe there was up to a 7 1/2-inch gash from the foam breakoff at launch. Memo was serious enough to go out to all NASA centers two days before disaster.


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To: Fred Mertz
ok! I just got back from the doctor my kid is sick!
681 posted on 02/03/2003 2:26:08 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: TLBSHOW
Mertz can be your Deputy Director of Safety. You may entrust him with a badge and one bullet at a time.
682 posted on 02/03/2003 2:26:10 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: TankerKC
Don Nelson helped design the shuttle and has been involved ever since, is that qualifications enough?
683 posted on 02/03/2003 2:28:08 PM PST by oldcomputerguy
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To: JCEccles; Fred Mertz
You may entrust him with a badge and one bullet at a time.

What are you crazy???? A bullet???? I'd stick with a slingshot and pea shooter for both of them to share.....nothing more.

684 posted on 02/03/2003 2:29:13 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Spitwads.....lets keep it safe.
685 posted on 02/03/2003 2:30:34 PM PST by justshe (Eliminate Freepathons! Become a monthly donor. Only YOU can prevent Freepathons!)
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To: TLBSHOW
He also wanted escape modules as mentioned in this brief interview.
686 posted on 02/03/2003 2:31:01 PM PST by ET(end tyranny)
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To: spectre
Space walks are often or only done with the robot arm
as a tether. The robot arm was not installed for this flight.
687 posted on 02/03/2003 2:31:27 PM PST by oldcomputerguy
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To: oldcomputerguy
Don Nelson helped design the shuttle and has been involved ever since, is that qualifications enough?

No. What does "helped design" mean? How was he "involved"?

688 posted on 02/03/2003 2:32:13 PM PST by TankerKC (If all else fails, blame it on a lack of patriotism.)
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To: ET(end tyranny)
I saw that, if anyone would of listened these 7 people would not be dead!
689 posted on 02/03/2003 2:32:33 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Well, I did say "bullet." I don't think we should trust him with the brass, powder, and primer to go with it.
690 posted on 02/03/2003 2:32:42 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: JCEccles
ROFL !!!!!
691 posted on 02/03/2003 2:33:29 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: oldcomputerguy
36 years of service trumps the Clinton corn balls!
692 posted on 02/03/2003 2:33:40 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: spectre
C-130's may not have parachutes but they can fly on one engine too.
693 posted on 02/03/2003 2:35:15 PM PST by oldcomputerguy
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To: TLBSHOW
If they would have implemented his idea of an escape module, they could have separated themselves from the shuttle after re-entry.

694 posted on 02/03/2003 2:36:19 PM PST by ET(end tyranny)
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To: Axenolith
I can't believe the # of people who assume this was hopeless from the git go. Crap, something could have been tried, even if the odds were long . . .

I think you misunderstand a lot of what is being said.

The point was not that the re-entry was "hopeless," but that the odds of a successful re-entry were thought to be better than the odds of any other "something" that NASA could have tried.

695 posted on 02/03/2003 2:37:06 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: ET(end tyranny)
Bingo and that is why this shuttle should never of lifted off until that was done.
696 posted on 02/03/2003 2:38:21 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: Focault's Pendulum
"but I think NASA had no choice but to roll the dice....and they lost."


I think that captures it pretty well. The culpability is that NSAS knew it had a foam problem as it apparently started after an environmentally friendly type was used in conjunction with less of it. Foam has come off on 6 or more previous flights and they obviously have not fixed
the problem yet though this was an old tank.
697 posted on 02/03/2003 2:40:04 PM PST by oldcomputerguy
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To: TankerKC
Don Nelson was at NASA for 36 years, part of the team for shuttle’s initial design and upgrades until he retired in 1999. Ah forget it, still probably not good enough for you.
698 posted on 02/03/2003 2:41:19 PM PST by ET(end tyranny)
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To: justshe
~SNICKER~.....but think about where that spit has been. EEWWWWWWWWW !!!!!!
699 posted on 02/03/2003 2:42:24 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Spit happens? ROFLMAO!
700 posted on 02/03/2003 2:47:36 PM PST by justshe (Eliminate Freepathons! Become a monthly donor. Only YOU can prevent Freepathons!)
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