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To: ewing
Stanley Kunitz has some talent but a bad attitude. Rita Dove is entirely talentless.
11 posted on 02/04/2003 7:12:44 AM PST by Cicero
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To: Cicero
'Rita Dove' sounds like a Bubba choice to have her 'serving' under the White House desk..
23 posted on 02/04/2003 7:19:15 AM PST by ewing
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To: Cicero
Rita Dove is entirely talentless.

I was present at an incredible poetry reading years ago in NYC, at which Octavio Paz, Joseph Brodsky, Czelav Milosz, and Derrick Walcot read.

Rita Dove was the Clinton-appointed Poet Laureate at that time. She stood up and favored us with some words (not to be confused with poetry) about her vagina.

26 posted on 02/04/2003 7:20:23 AM PST by livius
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To: Cicero
Merwin is the class of the group mentioned. I'm always sorry when he occasionally gets involved in these situations. But he has some sense of intellectual and moral responsibility, which all the others are lacking.

From an interview:

DB: You mentioned last night about the heavy impact of reading Czeslaw Milosz's The Captive Mind. Why do you think that during a period like the Sixties (which was very political), the book did not really get any attention?

Merwin: I simply don't know. I think that the only theory that I have about it is that Milosz was so critical of the Communist world and there was a great deal of leftist sympathy in the Sixties. For example, the SDS-oriented people felt that Milosz was right-wing just as many Marxists felt about Camus and The Rebel. I've always felt that this was wrong, I mean in the sense of being incorrect. There's a kind of outlawry that I have been drawn to all my life which is not doctrinaire, which is neither right nor left. In fact, it's opposed to them both. Every time I come back toward a political stance, I never stay in one very long because every time I move toward one I tend to partake of that anarchy, a suspicion of all their houses. That's the only explanation I can think of as to why Milosz was not accepted more widely and was not read more widely in the Sixties. I don't remember when The Captive Mind was published, 1958, 1959, somewhere along in there. I know some of my friends read it and were excited about it at the time and it just seemed to disappear. I think it went out of print, too. It's been out of print for a long time because I've tried to get copies of it for my friends and couldn't find it.

58 posted on 02/04/2003 8:36:26 AM PST by monkey
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