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Here's the link to Plato's "Gorgias":

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/3963/books/gorgias.htm

142 posted on 02/14/2003 7:44:20 PM PST by betty boop
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p.s.: It's 78 pages of typescript. Motivated readers could "do it" in an afternoon. But then one might want additional time for reflection...about what is really a most ancient problem in human affairs that has not, til this day, been "conclusively answered."

Of course, the folks who give you this (i.e, Callicles') explanation tend to hold human history in contempt as a source of knowledge or wisdom....

143 posted on 02/14/2003 7:51:07 PM PST by betty boop
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