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Spotted owl off the endangered species list
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/5149938.htm ^ | 2/10/03 | Don Thompson - AP

Posted on 02/10/2003 4:03:13 PM PST by NormsRevenge

Edited on 04/13/2004 3:30:20 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: farmfriend; Carry_Okie; forester
I guess it doesn't need protecting anymore since Red Emerson now has become the biggest private landowner in CA!!!
42 posted on 02/10/2003 8:48:34 PM PST by SierraWasp (Like, hey man, SHIFT_HAPPENS!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Gas 'n go!


43 posted on 02/10/2003 8:49:30 PM PST by July 4th
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To: B4Ranch
Government coakroach counters have found that roach populations are diminishing at an alarming rate due to roach motels. So roaches are next up on the endangered list.
44 posted on 02/10/2003 8:54:54 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Make that Cockroach counters.....Cockroach.....
45 posted on 02/10/2003 8:56:00 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: NormsRevenge
The loggers are cheerin'!
46 posted on 02/10/2003 8:56:45 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation
Many lost everthing over this fraud. I doubt they are really cheering. Maybe a small smile.
47 posted on 02/10/2003 9:03:11 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: farmfriend
Oh, man, does this mean I can go whack of few of these critters, now?
48 posted on 02/10/2003 9:32:51 PM PST by hoosierskypilot
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To: SierraWasp; Carry_Okie; farmfriend
I guess it doesn't need protecting anymore since Red Emerson now has become the biggest private landowner in CA!!!

Don't forget the most important part...he owns every sawmill in the Sierras except for three. We are talking from Fall River to Fresno...a distance of some 400 miles. Guess who is the only major buyer for federal timber now? I wonder if the banks will bet money on new sawmills after the last administration forced the majority of them into bankruptcy? Not reorganization mind you -- public auction of the machinery and demolition of the mills.

I'm am trying to be happy for the loggers in the Sierra, but we are in the Northern Spotted Owl area. Between the owls and the fish, we are down to 4½ month logging season. Hope we get some help too.

49 posted on 02/10/2003 10:33:56 PM PST by forester (american forestry is a dying art...sigh)
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To: freedomworks
Good post. Henry lamb is great.
50 posted on 02/10/2003 10:35:19 PM PST by forester (american forestry is a dying art...sigh)
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To: farmfriend
Thanks for the ping! Got this yesterday.

Is the USF&WS actually following some common sense?

http://news.fws.gov/newsreleases/default.cfm
2/10/2003: California Spotted Owl Doesn’t Require ESA Protection, Wildlife Service Concludes
SACRAMENTO, Calif. ¤ The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service announced today that the California spotted owl, a native bird found in forests of the Sierra Nevada, the central coast range, and major mountain ranges of southern California, doesn¡t warrant protection under the Endangered Species Act (ESA) at this time. While some study areas show recent declines, the Service found no clear statistical evidence to show that the California spotted owl is declining throughout its range. The feathers ...
2/7/2003: U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Declines to List Two Mt. Ashland-Area Plants
February 7, 2003 U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Declines to List Two Mt. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service today announced that two rare plants native to southern Oregon do not warrant federal protection under the Endangered Species Act, because the two species face few significant threats, and their numbers and distribution appear to be stable. The Fish and Wildlife Service and Forest Service will continue to monitor the plants to determine population trends and assess...
2/7/2003: Western Subspecies of Sage Grouse Does Not Warrant Listing
The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service today found that a petition to list the western subspecies of sage grouse (also known as western sage grouse) as endangered or threatened does not provide sufficient information showing that the species is distinct from other sage grouse populations. Based on that finding the Service concluded in a 90-day finding that the grouse is not eligible for federal protection under the Endangered Species Act (ESA). The Service published a 12-month finding in May ...
51 posted on 02/11/2003 3:05:35 AM PST by countrydummy
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To: farmfriend
BTTT!!!!!!
52 posted on 02/11/2003 3:07:42 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: forester
I'm am trying to be happy for the loggers in the Sierra, but we are in the Northern Spotted Owl area. Between the owls and the fish, we are down to 4½ month logging season. Hope we get some help too.

That point is one that many folks are not considering.
53 posted on 02/12/2003 8:36:11 AM PST by sasquatch
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To: Joe Hadenuf
A few years back at a meeting of lumber manufacturers we were told the spotted owl was never endangered - the hoopla resulted from a counting error.
54 posted on 02/12/2003 8:44:26 AM PST by Quilla
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To: sasquatch
That point is one that many folks are not considering.

I agree. The California Owl has the smallest territory of the three so-called sub-species, so this affects a small fraction of the western forests.

55 posted on 02/12/2003 8:46:57 AM PST by forester (put foresters back in the forest ... abolish environmental paperwork!!!)
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To: forester
put foresters back in the forest ... abolish environmental paperwork!!!

If you are willing to travel, we have an NTMP and will probably cut within a few years. Although the local foresters might be less than pleased, some exposure to the Central Coast might do you some good ( or scare the hell out of you!!) On the other hand, some of the best guys from this area have gone North to Mendecino Redwood...It'll be about 600K bf of redwood and some Doug Fir. Regards, Dick
56 posted on 02/13/2003 4:59:16 PM PST by sasquatch
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