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Stars' views shouldn't be so easily written off (Barf Alert)
Pioneer Press | Pioner Press | Laura Billings

Posted on 02/11/2003 9:14:33 AM PST by dts32041

Jessica Lange is against it. So is Susan Sarandon.

Bonnie Raitt's not in favor of bombing Baghdad. Neither are Michael Stipe, Madonna and Martin Sheen, who plays a president on television but thinks the real one is a "moron.''

When it comes to the impending war on Iraq, a phalanx of famous faces is speaking out against it. Which means that everything they say is being blasted by pro-war pundits, who believe celebrities should confine their opinions to the Zone diet and stay out of demilitarized zones.

Take for instance the shellacking that singer Sheryl Crow recently got after appearing at the American Music Awards in a T-shirt sequined with the message "War is not the answer.'' As she told reporters, "I think war is based in greed and there are huge karmic retributions that will follow. I think war is never the answer to solving any problems. The best way to solve problems is to not have enemies."

Though Jesus Christ, Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr. all expressed similar thoughts, they didn't have the misfortune of living in a world with FOX News. Conservative critics were worse to her than music critics, referring to her as a "noted geopolitical strategist" who "probably thinks Saddam Hussein is a New York City cabdriver.''

It's true, she might not have been especially eloquent on the subject, but neither is our own president. Just a few days after the Crow flap, Bush was quoted saying the United States had to go to war against Iraq because of Saddam Hussein's "willingness to terrorize himself.'' It's a safe bet no one on FOX News made fun of him.

Sean Penn, who seems to have replaced Barbra Streisand as the most hated liberal on talk radio, was in for worse ridicule after the actor placed an anti-war ad in the Washington Post in October. "Bombing answered by bombing, mutilation by mutilation, killing by killing, is a pattern that only a great country like ours can stop,'' Penn wrote in an open letter to the president. He followed up in December with a trip to Baghdad, an attempt to educate himself about the real causes and consequences of a war in that region.

For his troubles — his earnest intention of finding a peaceful solution, rather than a war that will surely lead to the deaths of thousands of innocent Iraqis — he has been called a "traitor." No doubt his ex-wife, Madonna, can expect the same treatment when she releases a new single this week with a strong anti-war message.

The conservative "Drudge Report" says the video shows her dressed in fatigues and throwing grenades in a landscape of limbless men and women.

The question I have is, why do we so easily dismiss the opinions of famous people, as if they're nothing but "limousine liberals"? (Itself a laughable epithet, as if conservatives are all driving around in Corollas, or being ridiculously rich discounts your opinion on political issues.)

Streisand is continually derided for mixing up Iran and Iraq, and yet no one complains when the president says Iraq was responsible for 9/11. Does anyone remember al-Qaida?

Though there is a strong anti-war movement in this country, it is also strangely muted. And no wonder.

The way the administration has framed the argument, as good against evil, simply asking why (Why us? Why now? Why them? Why not North Korea?) casts the questioner on the wrong side.

Standing up against this march to war takes a big voice, a big ego and maybe even big box office. No wonder Hollywood seems perfect for this casting call.

After getting a lifetime achievement award in London, actor Dustin Hoffman said, "I believe — though I may be wrong because I am no expert — that this war is about what most wars are about: hegemony, money, power and oil.…

"I believe that administration has taken the events of 9/11 and has manipulated the grief of the country and I think that's reprehensible.''

Critics say a guy like him has no right to weigh in on the issues of the day; as he says, he's "no expert.''

But when it comes to understanding the spin doctoring and cynical manipulations that go on in D.C., Hoffman may have more expert standing than he lets on.

Did you ever see him in "Wag the Dog"?


Laura Billings can be reached at lbillings@pioneerpress.com or (651) 228-5584.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hollyweird; wariraq; warmongers
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Just cause they have more money doesn't make them smart.

Remember the tulip at one time was the national currency of Holland.

1 posted on 02/11/2003 9:14:34 AM PST by dts32041
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To: dts32041
And I thought my local rags were an embarrassment...
2 posted on 02/11/2003 9:16:43 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: dts32041
Good heavens what an atrocious column! Thanks for the post. I need to know which morons to avoid (and to hold accountable when this all shakes out). Something tells me that there will be a nice whitewash once the tortured people of Iraq get to relate their experiences.
3 posted on 02/11/2003 9:18:23 AM PST by Mr. Bird
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yet no one complains when the president says Iraq was responsible for 9/11. Does anyone remember al-Qaida?

No one complains because any sensible human knows there is a connection.

4 posted on 02/11/2003 9:21:55 AM PST by NC Conservative
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To: dts32041
Sean Penn, who seems to have replaced Barbra Streisand as the most hated liberal on talk radio,

No but maybe a close second.. Barbra is still at the top of the list..

5 posted on 02/11/2003 9:22:23 AM PST by Texas Mom
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To: dts32041
"The best way to solve problems is to not have enemies."

The best way to not have enemies is to get rid of them, by force if necesary!
6 posted on 02/11/2003 9:24:20 AM PST by AlabamaRebel (Sergeant, US Army 1978-1985)
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To: dts32041
Laura Billings can be reached at ...

With the delusions needed to write that creamy nonsense, I doubt Laura Billings can be reached by any method. I can't believe what passes for a publishable article these days.

7 posted on 02/11/2003 9:24:48 AM PST by jz638
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To: dts32041
rather than a war that will surely lead to the deaths of thousands of innocent Iraqis

Maybe I'm out of line here, but don't the Iraqis bear some responsibility here. I mean, they know what kind of guy Saddam is. Sometimes you have got to get some guts and remove evil dictators from power (you know, the tree of liberty is nourished by the blood of tyrants). If you fail to do so, you open yourself up for the potential of a major war in your backyard.

8 posted on 02/11/2003 9:24:55 AM PST by Marc Poor
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To: Mr. Bird
Avoid is correct. Some of these people, if not most, have problems with drugs, alcohol and vilonce. These are the same atributes they try to sell our kids on TV.
They may have face time on TV but for the most part they represent the bottom crawlers in our society.
9 posted on 02/11/2003 9:25:50 AM PST by paguch
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To: dts32041
They're uneducated. End of story.
10 posted on 02/11/2003 9:26:03 AM PST by mabelkitty
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To: dts32041
I remember putting a "Nixon" sticker on my Dad's car bumper during the election of 1960 (Nixon vs Kennedy). Though my Dad was a Republican, he was also a business man and he ordered me to take the sticker off with these words of wisdom:

"Buck", my customers are also Democrats, so are some of the people that work for me. I don't want to loose a sale to a Democrat or make a man angry that works for me. WE keep our politics at home and in the voting booth.

The people in H'Wood have taken their politics public and have exposed themselves to the scorn of some of their customers.

12 posted on 02/11/2003 9:28:03 AM PST by elbucko
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To: dts32041
The author is willfully ignorant, and is himself worth little more than a dismissal.

His comment on "limousine liberals" shows his ignorance, because he obviously does not know how the term is defined.
13 posted on 02/11/2003 9:29:21 AM PST by MrB
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14 posted on 02/11/2003 9:29:47 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: elbucko
For his troubles — his earnest intention of finding a peaceful solution

Did I miss something? When did he become an "agent" for the government?

15 posted on 02/11/2003 9:30:12 AM PST by Howlin
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The question I have is, why do we so easily dismiss the opinions of famous people, as if they're nothing but "limousine liberals"?

Looks like Ms. Billings has some comprehension issues, doesn't it?

16 posted on 02/11/2003 9:32:18 AM PST by Howlin
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To: dts32041
"noted geopolitical strategist who probably thinks Saddam Hussein is a New York City cabdriver."

Sums it up for the lot of them.

17 posted on 02/11/2003 9:32:32 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: paguch
They may have face time on TV but for the most part they represent the bottom crawlers in our society.

Exactly! I wish I'd have said that.

18 posted on 02/11/2003 9:32:48 AM PST by elbucko
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To: coteblanche
You did say Ottawa, right?
19 posted on 02/11/2003 9:35:50 AM PST by mabelkitty
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To: dts32041; 2grit; 7beuties; Abe Froman; Abigail Adams; AdGal; Aeronaut; Gunder; AFCdt; Alpenkatze; ..
A minnesota BUMP. The Pioneer Press is usually a little less blatant in it's "leftist" drivel than its competitor the "Red Star & Sickle"

Shame on the PP for this article.

Laura Billings sounds about as clueless as they come.
20 posted on 02/11/2003 9:35:57 AM PST by Johnny Gage (God Bless our Military, God Bless President George W. Bush and God Bless America!)
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