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Investigators: Shuttle's Exterior Pierced During Fiery Descent
Associated Press ^ | Feb 13, 2003 | Ted Bridis Associated Press Writer

Posted on 02/13/2003 4:17:09 PM PST by OutSpot

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To: dtel
LOL.. We are all novices in the eyes of God.. and justifiably so . :-)
21 posted on 02/13/2003 6:13:18 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: OutSpot
"The space shuttle's skin almost was certainly pierced, allowing superheated air inside the left wing and possibly the wheel compartment during Columbia's fiery descent through Earth's atmosphere"


Um. Maybe I'm missing the significance. OF COURSE it was pierced. Hello? Did they see the videotapes? The thing blew up. That wouldn't have happened without a breach in the hull. It did not explode from within.

Sorry, but I already know the sky is blue.

How about them telling us why, after they KNEW the underwing on the left side took such a huge hit during take-off, why they did not do more to inspect the damage before sending those poor men and women to their death.
22 posted on 02/13/2003 6:13:22 PM PST by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
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To: KellyAdmirer
I believe the tires aren't inflated until just before the shuttle lands - probably to prevent any potential tire explosion from destroying the shuttle. Having said that, if the wheel cover fell off or the seal was breached by superhot plasma, then the shuttle wouldn't last too long.

23 posted on 02/13/2003 6:13:38 PM PST by TomT in NJ
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To: LibKill
"UNLEASH THE ENGINEERS!"

Absolutely!

24 posted on 02/13/2003 6:17:38 PM PST by harpo11 (The United Nations is NOT united with America)
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Reuters version of same info from Yahoo! News ..

By Deborah Zabarenko

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The extreme heat observed on the shuttle Columbia's left side during its fatal re-entry could have been caused by hot plasma penetrating the craft's wheel well, independent investigators said on Thursday.

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Plasma is the super-heated gas that surrounded the shuttle as it streaked toward a landing at Kennedy Space Center (news - web sites) on Feb. 1. Plasma typically envelops a fast-descending space shuttle, but this time, preliminary analysis indicates it may have gotten inside the spacecraft's protective surface.

"Preliminary analysis by a NASA (news - web sites) working group this week indicates that the temperature indications seen in Columbia's left wheel well during entry would require the presence of plasma," the Columbia Accident Investigation Board said in a statement forwarded by NASA.

However, the board said the heat was so excessive that it could not have been caused by the absence of just one missing tile in the last minutes of flight.

This is significant since questions have centered on the possibility that some of Columbia's heat-shielding tiles were knocked off by a piece of foam insulation that fell off the shuttle's external fuel tank about 80 seconds after launch, apparently striking the left wing.

The board said investigators were looking at other ways the shuttle's skin might have been breached to let plasma into the wheel well area or elsewhere in the wing.

They also discounted fears that a problem with the landing gear on the left side of the spacecraft might have caused the shuttle to disintegrate over Texas, as a NASA engineer suggested in an e-mail two days before the shuttle's demise.

PROBLEMS ON COLUMBIA'S LEFT SIDE

"Other flight data including gear position indicators and drag information does not support the scenario of an early deployment of the left gear," the board said.

The board's statement was distributed by NASA, which has already come under criticism for failing to keep its distance from the independent inquiry that was appointed just hours after Columbia broke apart.

After a bruising four-hour congressional hearing on Wednesday with just one witness -- NASA Administrator Sean O'Keefe -- the space agency amended the investigative board's charter to address concerns about its independence.

The search for debris from Columbia continued in Texas, where a preliminary analysis of low-frequency sound wave recordings indicated the shuttle exploded between the cities of Amarilla and Lubbock, about 330 miles west of Dallas.

The data from sensitive devices that record infrasound, or low-frequency sound waves inaudible by humans, was sent to NASA, said Eugene Herrin, a geophysicist at Southern Methodist University in Dallas.

Herrin said data indicates a single explosion over Texas. A monitoring station in New Mexico showed the spacecraft as being intact as it passed over that state, he said.

Scientists operate a worldwide system of infrasound detectors that record items such as sonic booms. The devices look for any disturbance in the atmosphere such as a nuclear blast, meteor flights or even hurricanes.

Herrin said the infrasound likely recorded the moment when the shuttle blew apart, but the findings were preliminary.

The search on the ground shifted to Anderson County, west of Nacogdoches, where most of the reported shuttle debris fell. Officials said they have likely found more parts from the shuttle's wings and are checking serial numbers on recovered parts to see if they came from the left wing.


25 posted on 02/13/2003 6:18:47 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: dtel
If it launched today they could use all the Duct Tape everyone is buying.
27 posted on 02/13/2003 6:25:04 PM PST by YOMO
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To: dtel
I would guess any damage near the leading edge of the wing would be a major problem, even if it was 1 tile, it could cause a chain reaction IMHO. There are many others more knowledgable about the shuttle than me around here though.
28 posted on 02/13/2003 6:25:17 PM PST by X-FID
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To: OutSpot
A tragic event and worthy our condolensces. This report needs to be well published. It's the first one I've read from NASA which reaffirms faith in their professionalism. Thanks for posting it.
29 posted on 02/13/2003 6:31:30 PM PST by Cvengr
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To: X-FID
I see what you are trying to say about the wheel well, but the sensors began failing before the wheel well.
It was one of the last sensors to go.
The heating started at the junction of the wing and fuselage,(check the press conferences for you anal geeks), this could indicate several problems including coming in off tangent.
Nobody knows yet what happened and it is way too early, to hang our hat on a cause.
It is easier, to eliminate certain causes at this point, than to pinpoint the cause.
I agree the foam is a problem, but it is a known problem that occurs every flight. This is nothing new.
Blowing up on re-entry is.
30 posted on 02/13/2003 6:37:32 PM PST by dtel (Texas Longhorn cattle for sale at all times. We don't rent pigs)
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To: dtel
It was re-engineered to haul seven different people of diffenrent ethnic persuasions into space.

It was re-engineered, so as to be so simple to fly that they could even launch school teachers, professors, et al., into space.

PC' ism at its finest.

Talk about hot gas.

VLM

31 posted on 02/13/2003 6:38:37 PM PST by LasVegasMac
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To: dtel
The Shuttle was designed in the late 60's, early 70's, it is a Flying Camel.

And it's been CONSTANTLY improved and re-designed since then.

UNTIL you have a chance to repeal certain laws of physics - the basic PROBLEMS of space flight remain and your APPROACH to solving certain problems will remain along THE SAME LINES as the space shuttle ...

32 posted on 02/13/2003 6:40:56 PM PST by _Jim (//NASA has a better safety record than NASCAR\\)
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To: OutSpot
The tire was blackened and sustained a massive split across its tread, but it was impossible to know whether the tire was damaged aboard Columbia or when it struck the ground.

Are we allowed to guess?

33 posted on 02/13/2003 6:41:44 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: dtel
If the wing was corrupted by the foam, it would have come apart during the sixteen days they were in space.

Sure about that?

34 posted on 02/13/2003 6:43:57 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: LasVegasMac
It was re-engineered, so as to be so simple to fly that they could even launch school teachers, professors, et al., into space.

PC' ism at its finest.

Huh?

Are you overlooking the two flight officers who sit up front?

VARIOUS portions of 'flight', BTW, are ONLY controllable by computer due to the subtlty of CONTROL RESPONSE required to maintain the shuttle's ATTITUDE (LIKE during re-entry) ...

35 posted on 02/13/2003 6:44:24 PM PST by _Jim (//NASA has a better safety record than NASCAR\\)
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To: dtel
If foam had corrupted the skin of the craft early in flight, sensors would have failed well before re-entry.

The flight *into* space isn't *quite* the ride that they take back *into* the atmosphere (commonly called re-entry) -

- you do know this don't you?

36 posted on 02/13/2003 6:50:02 PM PST by _Jim (//NASA has a better safety record than NASCAR\\)
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To: RightWhale
Sure about that?

Think about it.
When do the forces of aerodynamics quit working during space flight?
The foam came off very early in flight, they were not in outer space, the rocket was obviously still attached.
They were gaining speed and thus enduring tremendous force.
If the wing were fatally compromised during this acceleration phase, it almost certainly would have exhibited some major sensor failure before the re-entry phase.

37 posted on 02/13/2003 6:53:00 PM PST by dtel (Texas Longhorn cattle for sale at all times. We don't rent pigs)
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To: NormsRevenge
The shuttle is launched with the tires uninflated, if I am not mistaken. At what point in the re-entry process are they re-inflated, relative to the shuttle's re-entry timeline?

I previously seached the net for the answer to this very question. Never found the answer. The tires are inflated to about 300 psi and rated to 900 psi. They are only used for one or two landings.

38 posted on 02/13/2003 6:53:05 PM PST by Doe Eyes
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To: LibKill
I would like to see a better space vehicle built.

Agreed. For starters, I wonder if there's not a more durable thermal protection system that can be put in place now instead of 28,000 glued-on tiles.

MM

39 posted on 02/13/2003 6:56:54 PM PST by MississippiMan
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To: _Jim
I do understand that.
I also understand that it takes tremendous force to get into orbit.
Something happened at the junction of the wing and fuselage according to the sensors.
It spread through the wing, knocking out sensors as it progressed.
If the puncture had occurred during launch, don't you think the sensors would have picked it up?
Maybe the evidence will show a heat rise in that area early in flight, we shall wait and see.
40 posted on 02/13/2003 6:58:59 PM PST by dtel (Texas Longhorn cattle for sale at all times. We don't rent pigs)
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