What caused salmon deaths?

Siskiyou Daily News (excerpted) ^ | February 16, 2003 | Barry Clausen

[marsh2]

Amen

[SierraWasp]

They left out Friends of the River in their list of extremist EnvironMentalist groups! Why!!!

[HairOfTheDog]

What they fail to mention is that this fish kill took place during the third largest fall chinook salmon run ever recorded.

Help me here. Though 30,000 fish died while still downstream, was this run still one of the largest recorded runs? - Was there a healthy return in spite of the loss?

[Libertarianize the GOP]

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/bump-list

[SierraWasp]

Bumping & Pinging again for enlightend opinion and even some answers from those in "the know!"

The guy with the T-Shirt and CA Fish & Game make it pretty obvious the political attack on the Bush Administration was merely disgusting political opportunism to the MAX!!!

Funny how the commercial whitewater rafting industry and their supposed non-profit front group, "Friends of the River" never got mentioned when I saw them specifically mentioned in other articles about this controversy! Both in 2002 and 2001!!!

[hocndoc]

The fish are one of the points of a "report" being sent out to anti-Bush (pro-abortion, pro-any-thing-but-abstinence groups:

http://www.arhp.org/signon/science.cfm

"Preserving the Core Values I Science"

""Evidence-based, peer-reviewed science has served as a respected "gold standard" for policy-making. As the examples below indicate, it increasingly appears that, under the current administration, ideology and not science is driving what ought to be objective, scientific processes.



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Biologist ordered to rewrite his scientific opinion on water needs of endangered salmon

Michael Kelly, a biologist with the National Marine Fisheries Service, led the team changed with protecting endangered coho salmon in California and Oregon's Klamath River. Regional water managers must balance the water needs of the federally protected salmon with those of local farmers. This past spring, Kelly's team reviewed the ten-year plan put forth by the water's managers-the Bureau of Reclamation-and concluded that the plan did not provide enough water for the fish. The Justice Department ordered Kelly to revise his conclusions. His second report reached the same conclusion, with additional scientific and legal analysis. The Bureau of Reclamation rejected his report and backed an alternative plan that diverted more water for agriculture. Later in the summer, with low water flows, more than 30,000 fish, or one-quarter of that year's run, died. ""

[SierraWasp]

Hey! Didn't you see all the phony stories trying to glorify this guy as some kind of legitimate "whistle blower?" Every time you check these stories out, one finds that the story was supplied to the media by some insatiable EnvironMental group and the media people were too lazy to check out the efficacy of the story, much less do their own legwork!!!

[farmfriend]

Klamath list plus.

[farmfriend]

Special ping.

[SierraWasp]

How 'bout them Gore votin Injuns an their fallacious T-Shirts? Reminds me of the one that had his net runnin clear cross the mouth of the Klamath hooked to his Ford Tractor pullin Salmon out till it pertnear flattened the tires of his long-wide-bed pickem up truck!!!

Another "Special Rights Group! Sovereignty my differential!!!

[Carry_Okie]

Was there a healthy return in spite of the loss?

Yes.

[B4Ranch]

A Humboldt County Sheriff's Department official used a recent dumpsite at Colusa, to explain, "Mexican nationals had dumped their old chemicals and supplies into an irrigation canal."

What's this? The Humboldt County Sheriff's Department is blaming Mexican nationals? This is politically incorrect! Dammit Leave these poor illegal aliens alone! Let them do the job that Americans don't want to do.

[farmfriend]

This was a great post by marsh2. I'm supprised she has time to freep.

[yooper]

"What Caused Salmon Deaths?"

These enviroweenies, being idiots, forgot something which is very important to Salmon: Dissolved oxygen levels. Salmon (and also trout, which are salmonids) require high levels of dissolved oxygen in the water they inhabit. This oxygen is usually supplied by rapids or other such areas where water is being turned over at a high velocity. This is why trout are usually found in fast moving water. When the irrigation water in question was shut off, the rapids disappeared; hence, insufficient dissolved oxygen for the salmonids.

Any sophomore civil engineering student at a reputable university knows this....

[mhking]

What caused salmon deaths?

Filleting, washing, seasoning & broiling, followed by eating...

[tubebender]

Lots of good information in the article

I had a report of the meth lab dump early in this case but nothing solid. I believe by the time of the kil, Iron Gate already had enough spawners for the year. It was reported that this was the best run since around 1900. I would not rule out ELF involvement in the kill.

Something that struck me odd last Sept was the fact that a couple of Indian gill netters had already pulled up their nets before the kill. Now that may have been because they were sick of fish but...

BTW... Fish and Game may close the Mad River hatchery near Arcata for lack of funding. This hatchery is the sole fishery on the Mad River just south of the Klamath.

[RepubMommy]

How cares what causes their deaths? They taste pretty god on my Foreman grill.

[Phil V.]

. . . Friends of the River . . .

Friends of the River

[okie01]

"...was this run still one of the largest recorded runs?"

Yes. See tubebender's report at #16.

[Phil V.]

How many of those dead fish would be alive today had there been ideal oxygen level, temperature, clarity, purity and flow?

BTW . . . Anybody have a clue what the "normal" Klamath September flow used to be prior to the construction of dams in California. I KNOW that the flow in the South Fork American River in September USED TO BE a warm trickle in September.