Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

U.S. manufacturers are closing up shop and taking their businesses to Asia
The Sarasota Herald-Tribune ^ | February 24, 2003 | MICHAEL BRAGA

Posted on 02/24/2003 1:38:02 PM PST by Willie Green

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 201-220221-240241-260261-267 last
To: Action-America
Well said, AA, well said. And irrefutable, since I know you have thoroughly researched and vetted the information used to prepare this article.
261 posted on 02/28/2003 5:58:30 AM PST by Taxman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 256 | View Replies]

To: lewislynn; Taxman; *Taxreform

Everyone knows Joe doesn't pay taxes, Joe's company only collects, then remits the taxes. < /sarcasm >

Sarcasm aside, Joe's company, being a distributor (middleman), does not even collect taxes.

Using the nst logic, If you eliminate Joe's taxes...

You can't eliminate Joe's taxes.  You only shift them to Joe's consumption side.  But, what you do accomplish is to tax Jose at the same rate as Joe, thus eliminating the Citizenship Penalty.

and IF he lowers his prices accordingly his net income/profit would be the same as now.

True.  But, you miss the point.  Since Joe could reduce his prices under the NRST, he could compete with Jose, who would no longer have that huge income tax advantage.  In fact, Jose would be paying additional taxes, under the NRST, since he would pay that tax every time he makes a retail purchase (just like Joe).

I used the example of a sole proprietorship distributor to make it easier for everyone to understand.  But, I see that even that simple example was over the head of some folks.

under your NST ... the labor intensive service industries would have to (if they could) RAISE their prices 30% if they wanted to offset the new tax...

DUH!

Since a large part of a service industry's costs are employment taxes, the elimination of employment tax under the NRST, would enable them to reduce their prices even more than non-labor intensive businesses.  Now I understand why you failed to grasp the very elementary example that I presented earlier.

 

262 posted on 02/28/2003 10:21:57 AM PST by Action-America (France, Germany & Russia are irrelevant has-beens. Ignore them.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 258 | View Replies]

To: Taxman
The Firebird is just a daily driver. Pretty much all original, semi-restored about 10 years ago. Needs to be redone again after 10 years of fun with it. Good luck with the GTO.
263 posted on 02/28/2003 10:29:14 AM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 260 | View Replies]

To: Action-America
"Citizenship Penalty"

Have I your permission to use this phrase in my presentations? I really like the image it conjures up.

BTW, arguing with LurkeyLooneyLiarLewis is a waste of time. On the upside of that, however, while not being able to budge LooneyLurkeyLiarLewis off of his indefensible position, you educate others.

The essential point that those who are opposed to the NRST fail to recognize is that when the tax cost of government is removed FRom businesses cost buildup calculations, competition in the wholesale, jobber and retail market place will force the final retail price consumers pay down by an average of 25%.

If we can drive that point home to the disbelievers, including those in the Bush Administration and in the House and Senate (the naysayers are, for the most part, lost forever to us), we will win, virtually overnight.
264 posted on 02/28/2003 11:27:53 AM PST by Taxman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 262 | View Replies]

To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
Hey, my GTO was a daily driver from 1982 until 1996 -- it probably has 200,000 + miles on it. I keep it garaged and only drive it on nice days now, but I sure do enjoy those nice days!

It is not a show car by any means, and probably never will be. It was meant to drive, and I mean to drive it every chance I get!

I do have a full H-O Racing suspension under it (it corners like a slot car) with period American Racing Mags and the biggest 14" BFG rubber I could fit in the wheelwells. It also has the typical "Tuned" Holley 650 w/Edelbrock high rise, Doug Thorley headers w/2.5" duals and Turbo mufflers, Iskendarian valve train (everything but the cam) and a "shift kit" Turbo 350. Saving my pennies for a built 2004R, so I can take longer trips in it.

Nothing special, really, but there are not a lot of '65 GTOs around here (2 or 3), so it usually (despite some minor hangar rash) attracts a crowd at the summer Saturday cruise nights. And I have made a hellofalot of new FRiends just by taking it out.

Gonna get me a drop top '65 GTO onna these days, though!
265 posted on 02/28/2003 11:40:04 AM PST by Taxman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 263 | View Replies]

To: Taxman

"Citizenship Penalty"

Have I your permission to use this phrase in my presentations? I really like the image it conjures up.

Certainly.  In fact, it is a term that we should all be using.  All that I would ask is that when you use that term, you attribute the source.

I am currently completely reworking the original article, "Infernal Revenue", that contained the section that I quoted.  I updated it several times, but so much has changed since I wrote the original article in 1998, that updates were just not enough, so I pulled it and I am reexamining every part of it for accuracy.  I will repost it on Action America as soon as I can, though that may be a while, since my business endeavors are currently taking much of my time.

Incidentally, when I first wrote "Infernal Revenue" and the most popular article on Action America, "Tick-Tick-Tick - The Economy Bomb", I was firmly entrenched in the middle class.  Even so, I have often talked about the threat represented by attacking the top 1% and top 5% of income earners.  That's because, being involved with several international ventures over the years, I have had occasion to encounter more than a few very wealthy US expats and have found that their stories are all the same.  They didn't flee the tax burden, they fled the RISK that the IRS represents, for even squeaky clean, law abiding citizens.  That same RISK is why many companies have already left and many others are positioning themselves with overseas operations, to be prepared to leave.  Fortunately, I have moved up the income ladder significantly since I first wrote those articles, but their truths are just as valid today, as they were then.  In fact, though I am still not among the ultra-wealthy, I am in a much better position today, to validate the facts in those articles.  The wealthy are leaving and they have good reason.

 

266 posted on 02/28/2003 8:47:13 PM PST by Action-America (France, Germany & Russia are irrelevant has-beens. Ignore them.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 264 | View Replies]

To: Action-America
The wealthy are leaving and they have good reason.

Of course they do and it's NO accident that they are being forced out by this COMMUNIST INSPIRED income tax system Americans labor under!

As usual, the article is SPOT ON!

267 posted on 03/01/2003 6:33:07 AM PST by Bigun
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 266 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 201-220221-240241-260261-267 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson