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To: GOPcapitalist
That means ship them by rail to North Carolina and so forth. Or ship them up the mississippi from New Orleans and so forth. It's a lot harder to collect tariffs on goods travelling over land than by sea at the port of entry.

Sure, ship them up the interstate. The Feds can't cover all of them, can they? </sarcasm>

Looking at a map of the railway system in the U.S. around 1860 would indicate that there weren't that many lines connecting the North and the south. Make them two countries and it wouldn't be hard for the government to limit the available crossing points and slap a tariff on the goods as the came across.

If buyers up north knew they could get goods without a tariff by going to Charleston, economic law dictates they would go to Charleston. If they knew they could get the same at New Orleans, they'd go to New Orleans.

But if the buyers up North knew that the goods would be hit with a tariff as soon as they brought it up North then why would they want to pay the confederate tariff, the U.S. tariff, and all the associated transportation costs?

Unless Lincoln established inland customs houses all up the Mississippi and at every road and railway across the border from Virginia and Arkansas, goods could enter the south, paying only the low southern tariff, then be transfered up north by inland means without any further taxation.

Every road? How much travelled by road in those days? You're talking railroad and river only, and it wouldn't be hard to limit those crossing points and add the tariff to goods coming across.

171 posted on 02/28/2003 4:49:07 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
it wouldn't be hard to limit those crossing points and add the tariff to goods coming across

Where there is a will, there is a way. From the link I provided in Post #150:

On May 21, 1861, the Confederate Congress prohibited the sale of cotton to the North. Yet an illicit trade across military lines flourished between Southern cotton farmers and Northern traders.

181 posted on 02/28/2003 7:48:04 AM PST by rustbucket
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To: Non-Sequitur
Sure, ship them up the interstate. The Feds can't cover all of them, can they?

Barring a customs house at every road, railway, and river across the border stretching from Virginia to Arkansas, then no. They couldn't cover them all.

Looking at a map of the railway system in the U.S. around 1860 would indicate that there weren't that many lines connecting the North and the south.

But there was one great big line of another sorts. It was called the Mississippi River.

Make them two countries and it wouldn't be hard for the government to limit the available crossing points and slap a tariff on the goods as the came across.

Not really. That would have required controlling every crossing of the border all the way from Virginia to Arkansas. Discount that fact as you may, but it simply wasn't possible. For example we can't even control a border today with all our modern technology - not even with the help of a large river running along it and the fact that 90% of it is out in the middle of a desert to nowhere. What makes you think Abe Lincoln could have done the same across the north-south border from Virginia to Arkansas in 1861?

But if the buyers up North knew that the goods would be hit with a tariff as soon as they brought it up North then why would they want to pay the confederate tariff, the U.S. tariff, and all the associated transportation costs?

Because it was logistically possible to transport those same goods up north while avoiding the tariff.

Every road? How much travelled by road in those days?

All it takes to get it across the border is a couple of miles, so you tell me.

194 posted on 02/28/2003 11:08:06 AM PST by GOPcapitalist
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