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To: WhiskeyPapa
the Preamble surely states that the Union is to be made more perfect. And what could be more permanent than a petpetual Union made more perfect?

Your logic does not follow. Nothing about the phrase "more perfect" even remotely hints at the term "perpetual." The leap between the two is an arbitrary one of your own construction.

197 posted on 02/28/2003 11:29:25 AM PST by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
The framers of our Constitution never exhausted so much labor, wisdom and forebearance in its formation, and surrounded it with so many guards and securities, if it was to be broken by every member of the Confederacy at will. It was intended for 'perpetual union' so expressed in the preamble, and for the establishment of a government, not a compact, which can only be dissolved by revolution, or the consent of all the people in convention assembled. It is idle to talk of secession."

Robert E. Lee, January 23, 1861

You were quoted from confederate hero General Lee on the concept of a perpetual Union. Do you have a problem with what Lee said?

204 posted on 02/28/2003 12:14:44 PM PST by mac_truck
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To: GOPcapitalist
the Preamble surely states that the Union is to be made more perfect. And what could be more permanent than a petpetual Union made more perfect?

Your logic does not follow. Nothing about the phrase "more perfect" even remotely hints at the term "perpetual." The leap between the two is an arbitrary one of your own construction.

And Robert E. Lee's.

And Chief Justice Chase.

And even old Taney.

Walt

206 posted on 02/28/2003 12:26:48 PM PST by WhiskeyPapa (Be copy now to men of grosser blood and teach them how to war!)
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