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Why We Fought [A Review of The Black Book of Communism]
The National Review ^ | 2000

Posted on 02/28/2003 6:00:42 AM PST by William McKinley

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This was mentioned on NRO's excellent The Corner this morning, so I thought I would post the whole thing here.
1 posted on 02/28/2003 6:00:42 AM PST by William McKinley
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To: William McKinley
Free Republic Highlights, 2/28/03
2 posted on 02/28/2003 6:21:16 AM PST by I Am Not A Mod
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bttt
3 posted on 02/28/2003 6:25:09 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: William McKinley
Anybody interested in this might want to read "lorba the Dread" by martin amis, in which he makes similar points, re: Stalinist CCCP, but goes into greater details about the conditions in the gulag, etc.

4 posted on 02/28/2003 8:28:51 AM PST by fourdeuce82d
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To: fourdeuce82d
You could also read Beevor's Stalingrad as an example of the contempt for human life on both sides...

Everytime I see some idiot like Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine or other pop-culture moron wearing pro-communist gear, I'd like to Fedex them an Adolph Eichmann t-shirt and see if they'd wear that...

5 posted on 02/28/2003 9:06:04 AM PST by HumanaeVitae
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To: William McKinley
Everyone must read at least Vol. I of 'Gulag Archipelago'.

It illuminates the dark heart of a communist regime.
6 posted on 02/28/2003 9:20:16 AM PST by headsonpikes
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To: William McKinley; fourdeuce82d
Thanks for the recommendations. You birds just cost me sixty buckadingdongs at Amazon. Jeezlouise...BTT...
7 posted on 02/28/2003 9:38:03 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill
"lorba the Dread"

should have been Korba etc.

8 posted on 02/28/2003 9:46:10 AM PST by fourdeuce82d
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To: fourdeuce82d
How about "Koba the Dread"?!
9 posted on 02/28/2003 9:53:04 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Someone left the cake out in the rain I dont think that I can take it coz it took so long to bake it)
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To: Free the USA; ATOMIC_PUNK; backhoe; Libertarianize the GOP; Carry_Okie; 2sheep; 4Freedom; ...
Saluting our veterans ping
10 posted on 02/28/2003 10:05:23 AM PST by madfly
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To: madfly
Thanks for the heads up!
11 posted on 02/28/2003 10:30:42 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: William McKinley
I was completely disgusted a few years back, when the NY Times did a front page, fawning feature story on an old age home for communists in this country.

It noted, as if it was sweet, the busts and paintings of Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Castro, Che, that decorated the place. The old bastards were chock full of quotes about how they lamented the slow death of the movement, and longed for the glory days long past.

Somehow, I don't expect the Times to do such a feature on either aging Nazis or Republicans, the only two groups they acknowledge as evil.

12 posted on 02/28/2003 10:40:07 AM PST by dead
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To: madfly
Thanks for the ping - for the Educating Whoopie ("I don't know that Communism is bad.") Goldberg files.
13 posted on 02/28/2003 10:48:00 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl ("A pretty compelling picture by most reasonable people." Brit Hume)
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To: William McKinley
Why the double standard? Part of the reason, The Black Book suggests, lies in the fact that while Nazism was completely vanquished in World War 11-its crimes exposed, its leaders tried and condemned-Communism was never clearly and publicly repudiated in the eyes of the world. After all, the Communists were our allies in the war against the Nazis; Soviet judges even participated in the trials at Nuremberg.

I disagree with his assignment of the cause of the disparity. After all, the Soviets participated in beginning WWII with the attack on Poland.

The reason for the unequal treatment of the crimes of communism and fascism is both simpler and more frightening than an alliance of a necessity that never existed: The Roosevelt Administration was riddled with Communists as is the American media and the academic left to this day. The winners wrote the history while those who won the victory with the blood of their young men remain their intended future victims.

Communists hold patriots in total contempt, being in its essence a tool of those who would reinstitute feudal fascism. Consider Orwell's prescient observations from his experience of the Spanish Civil War in 1933:

From Homage to Catalonia:

In reality, it was the Communists above all others who prevented revolution in Spain. Later, when the Right Wing forces were in full control, the Communists showed themselves willing to go a great deal further than the Liberals in hunting down revolutionary leaders.

[Snip]

Between the Communists and those who claim to stand to the Left of them there is a real difference. The Communists hold that Fascism can be beaten by alliance with sections of the capitalist class (the Popular Front); their opponents hold that this maneuver simply gives Fascism new breeding-grounds. The question has got to be settled; to make the wrong decision may be to land ourselves in for centuries of semi-slavery.


14 posted on 02/28/2003 10:50:39 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Because there are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: William McKinley
Why the double standard? Part of the reason, The Black Book suggests, lies in the fact that while Nazism was completely vanquished in World War 11-its crimes exposed, its leaders tried and condemned-Communism was never clearly and publicly repudiated in the eyes of the world. After all, the Communists were our allies in the war against the Nazis; Soviet judges even participated in the trials at Nuremberg.

I disagree with his assignment of the cause of the disparity. After all, the Soviets participated in beginning WWII with the attack on Poland.

The reason for the unequal treatment of the crimes of communism and fascism is both simpler and more frightening than an alliance of a necessity that never existed: The Roosevelt Administration was riddled with Communists as is the American media and the academic left to this day. The winners wrote the history while those who won the victory with the blood of their young men remain their intended future victims.

Communists hold patriots in total contempt, being in its essence a tool of those who would reinstitute feudal fascism. Consider Orwell's prescient observations from his experience of the Spanish Civil War in 1933:

From Homage to Catalonia:

In reality, it was the Communists above all others who prevented revolution in Spain. Later, when the Right Wing forces were in full control, the Communists showed themselves willing to go a great deal further than the Liberals in hunting down revolutionary leaders.

[Snip]

Between the Communists and those who claim to stand to the Left of them there is a real difference. The Communists hold that Fascism can be beaten by alliance with sections of the capitalist class (the Popular Front); their opponents hold that this maneuver simply gives Fascism new breeding-grounds. The question has got to be settled; to make the wrong decision may be to land ourselves in for centuries of semi-slavery.


15 posted on 02/28/2003 10:52:04 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Because there are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: William McKinley
Why the double standard? Part of the reason, The Black Book suggests, lies in the fact that while Nazism was completely vanquished in World War 11-its crimes exposed, its leaders tried and condemned-Communism was never clearly and publicly repudiated in the eyes of the world. After all, the Communists were our allies in the war against the Nazis; Soviet judges even participated in the trials at Nuremberg.

I disagree with his assignment of the cause of the disparity. After all, the Soviets participated in beginning WWII with the attack on Poland.

The reason for the unequal treatment of the crimes of communism and fascism is both simpler and more frightening than an alliance of a necessity that never existed: The Roosevelt Administration was riddled with Communists as is the American media and the academic left to this day. The winners wrote the history while those who won the victory with the blood of their young men remain their intended future victims.

Communists hold patriots in total contempt, being in its essence a tool of those who would reinstitute feudal fascism. Consider Orwell's prescient observations from his experience of the Spanish Civil War in 1933:

From Homage to Catalonia:

In reality, it was the Communists above all others who prevented revolution in Spain. Later, when the Right Wing forces were in full control, the Communists showed themselves willing to go a great deal further than the Liberals in hunting down revolutionary leaders.

[Snip]

Between the Communists and those who claim to stand to the Left of them there is a real difference. The Communists hold that Fascism can be beaten by alliance with sections of the capitalist class (the Popular Front); their opponents hold that this maneuver simply gives Fascism new breeding-grounds. The question has got to be settled; to make the wrong decision may be to land ourselves in for centuries of semi-slavery.


16 posted on 02/28/2003 10:52:58 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Because there are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: dead; Admin Moderator
AM - This is my last attempt to post this because I have done so three times and it doesn't appear on the thread. I have no idea where it went and it does not show up on a self-search. -CO

Why the double standard? Part of the reason, The Black Book suggests, lies in the fact that while Nazism was completely vanquished in World War 11-its crimes exposed, its leaders tried and condemned-Communism was never clearly and publicly repudiated in the eyes of the world. After all, the Communists were our allies in the war against the Nazis; Soviet judges even participated in the trials at Nuremberg.

I disagree with his assignment of the cause of the disparity. After all, the Soviets participated in beginning WWII with the attack on Poland.

The reason for the unequal treatment of the crimes of communism and fascism is both simpler and more frightening than an alliance of a necessity that never existed: The Roosevelt Administration was riddled with Communists as is the American media and the academic left to this day. The winners wrote the history while those who won the victory with the blood of their young men remain their intended future victims.

Communists hold patriots in total contempt, being in its essence a tool of those who would reinstitute feudal fascism. Consider Orwell's prescient observations from his experience of the Spanish Civil War in 1933:

From Homage to Catalonia:

In reality, it was the Communists above all others who prevented revolution in Spain. Later, when the Right Wing forces were in full control, the Communists showed themselves willing to go a great deal further than the Liberals in hunting down revolutionary leaders.

[Snip]

Between the Communists and those who claim to stand to the Left of them there is a real difference. The Communists hold that Fascism can be beaten by alliance with sections of the capitalist class (the Popular Front); their opponents hold that this maneuver simply gives Fascism new breeding-grounds. The question has got to be settled; to make the wrong decision may be to land ourselves in for centuries of semi-slavery.


17 posted on 02/28/2003 10:56:46 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Because there are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: headsonpikes
currently halfway through Volume I. Stunning to think this was actually happening, and only seventy years ago.
18 posted on 02/28/2003 11:00:48 AM PST by Semaphore Heathcliffe
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To: madfly
thanks for the ping
19 posted on 02/28/2003 11:09:35 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: Admin Moderator
Now they show up. That was truly wierd.

Could you please remove the duplicates?

20 posted on 02/28/2003 11:19:02 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Thanks John)
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