An Introduction to Zero-Point Energy

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[f.Christian]

ttl ...

"forward lift" on the front of the blade was created by the leading edge pushing on the air and compressing it in order to induce that lift - it just isn't pushing it backward.


165 posted on 03/02/2003 12:13 PM PST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)


fC ...

interesting ...

"forward lift" --- vacuum --- 'upward' to !

The wing (( leading edge )) ... 'air foil' is actually blocking the above air flow and compressing the below wing flow --- LIFT !

[js1138]

It is well documented that you are paid spammers using money from George Soros, etal, to convert us to a new world order with LESS freedom than we enjoy in America today.

Time to restart those meds.

[general_re]

It is well documented that you are paid spammers using money from George Soros, etal, to convert us to a new world order with LESS freedom than we enjoy in America today. For the curious, Soros, Zimmer, Sperling, Lewis are all for a new world order, total gun control, elimination of constitutional rights just so they can make money by ruling us in a global manner.

Now soliciting comments on the physics of the phenomenon known as "nuclear meltdown"...

[Poohbah]

It is well documented that you are paid spammers using money from George Soros, etal, to convert us to a new world order with LESS freedom than we enjoy in America today.

Provide the documentation in question--you have asserted, you must prove.

[Junior]

He does seem to have become a one-note wonder. Evidently, the universe is out to get him.

[Oberon]

That giant sucking sound is the hole in cinFLA's logic.

I thought about trying to set him straight on Newton, mass, and inertia. Then I read the rest of the thread, and thought better of it. I can bang my head against a wall in the comfort of my own home, if it comes to that.

[PatrickHenry]

I'm not getting anything from George Soros, but I am expecting a considerable sum from a banking official in Nigeria.

[6ppc]

bump for later

[Poohbah]

Hey, what a coincidence! I'm expecting a considerable sum from a banking official in Nigeria, too!

[VadeRetro]

Me, I'm just going to win Lotto. Simpler than beating the stock market and just as likely.

[sourcery]

[cinFLA to Physicist] Wrong again. You should change your handle.

[js1138] You are no doubt prepared to enlighten us with a counterexample?

Easy: any mass in a gravitational field, or any charge in an electromagnetic field, experiences acceleration without pushing on anything. Of course, such counterexamples would clearly violate the intended context of the discussion, and it would be intellectually dishonest of cinFLA to use them.

[Poohbah]

IIRC, and maybe I'm terribly oversimplifying Einstein here...

Doesn't the gravitational field actually distort the "straight line" that the object undergoing "acceleration" would traverse?

[Eastbound]

Hi, AG. Hey, I was going to ask if anyone here would mind helping change the light bulb. ;-)

[sourcery]

Doesn't the gravitational field actually distort the "straight line" that the object undergoing "acceleration" would traverse?

In 4-D space-time, a free-falling object moves along a geodesic. But what an observer sees is an apparent force causing the object to move non-linearly (in 3-D space) at ever faster velociy (or to have "weight," if the object is prevented from moving.) But this issue again highlights the importance of the context of discussion.

[Eastbound]

. . . but I was't certain if I should use the word, 'change,' or 'exchange.' Guess I'll just sit here in the dark.

[sourcery]

I am a reference.

I really like this response, because it reminds of a story about J.R.R. Tolkien:

He received a letter that criticized his spelling of the plural form of the word 'dwarf.' He had spelled it 'dwarves,' instead of the OED (Oxford English Dictionary) approved spelling 'dwarfs.' Tolkien responded to the letter by saying that he had changed his mind since writing that entry in the dictionary!

[PatrickHenry]

There's a similar story about a Yale law professor who was arguing a case in the US Supreme Court, and one of his former students, who was then a Justice (Byron White, I believe) said, teasing him, "Counsel, you realize the experts in the field disagree with your position." And the professor responded, "Yes, but I've changed my mind."

[inquest]

Electrons stay negative. Bonds are formed with other atoms by either sharing an electron in something like a figure-8 loop around both nuclei (covalent bonding) or loaning an electron from one to another (ionic bonding), leaving both atoms with a net charge and thus ionized.

Like I said, I was probably using a poor choice of words. I wasn't referring to the charge of the electron, but it's "phase" or some such. Basically the electron cloud seems to vibrate like a drum, and in order to form covalent bonds, the electrons of the clouds of two different atoms have to resonate together. The "figure 8" you referring to, I don't believe represents an actual circuit for the electron, but rather a vibration pattern, similiar to what you'd see if you struck a drumskin on one side. There'd be a region in the middle that wouldn't move, while one side goes up as the other goes down, and vice versa.

At least this is what I remember. Phyz, can you back me up on this, or am I hallucinating?

Setterfield uses the slowing of light to explain why the universe looks old but isn't.

Ah. So he's a YEC. I can see what you mean by it not working well. There'd have to be quite a bit of this ZPE around to slow light down by the several orders of magnitude necessary for that theory.

[Alamo-Girl]

LOLOL! Nice to hear from you, Eastbound! Hugs!

[cinFLA]

You are no doubt prepared to enlighten us with a counterexample?

How about aerofoils! Gravity, magnetism ....