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Liberman on Estrada "breakdown in the system"
The Union Leader ^ | March 1, 2003 | JOHN DiSTASO

Posted on 02/28/2003 11:17:46 PM PST by 11th_VA

ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL

Brad Wise of Goffstown impressed Lieberman yesterday when he cited the Federalist Papers in questioning him about the U.S. Senate gridlock on Miguel Estrada.

Estrada is Bush’s nominee for the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, often referred to as the second-highest court in the land. In a hot political battle, Senate Democrats have blocked a Senate confirmation vote on Estrada.

Wise, 45, was one of about 100 employees of Harvey Industries who met with Lieberman for about 30 minutes at the Huse Road window and door manufacturing plant yesterday. He said the Federalist Papers, a series of essays written in 1787 and 1788 to explain the proposed U.S. Constitution, explains that the role of the U.S. Senate is to vote — “up or down,” according to Wise — on judicial nominations.

Lieberman admitted he had never before had a voter cite the Federalist Papers to him in a question. He said that Bush is partially responsible for the gridlock, “But in fairness, I hold congressional Democrats accountable, too. There is a breakdown in the system, whether you agree with him or not.

“I don’t know what the answer (to the Estrada gridlock) is, exactly,” said Lieberman. “The only way to break through this is by forgetting who is Republican and who is Democrat and moving forward.”

Afterward, Wise, who was wearing a “Bush/Cheney” political button, said Lieberman had not won him over.


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I'm encouraged he did rant like Schumer - there may be hope here.
1 posted on 02/28/2003 11:17:46 PM PST by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA
Wonder how he thinks Bush is at fault? For sending an extremely highly qualified man who will strictly uphold the constitution?
2 posted on 02/28/2003 11:44:15 PM PST by ClancyJ
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To: 11th_VA
They CANNOT defend their position. We have to keep up the heat on both the Rats and the R`s.
3 posted on 02/28/2003 11:45:22 PM PST by bybybill (It`s just for the fish and then the children)
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To: 11th_VA
Wise, 45, was one of about 100 employees of Harvey Industries who met with Lieberman for about 30 minutes at the Huse Road window and door manufacturing plant yesterday. He said the Federalist Papers, a series of essays written in 1787 and 1788 to explain the proposed U.S. Constitution, explains that the role of the U.S. Senate is to vote — “up or down,” according to Wise — on judicial nominations.

Lieberman admitted he had never before had a voter cite the Federalist Papers to him in a question.

In other words, Lieberman didn't have a stock answer for the inquiry.

Wise is well-named, it seems.

4 posted on 02/28/2003 11:46:39 PM PST by L.N. Smithee (If you're afraid you'll have to overlook it/Besides you knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: ClancyJ; ken5050
Yea - I wish he'd given more of an answer
5 posted on 02/28/2003 11:47:13 PM PST by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA
Lieberman couldn't give more of an answer. Hitlery hasn't given him the latest liberal reply yet.
6 posted on 02/28/2003 11:58:31 PM PST by kitkat
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To: 11th_VA
> He said that Bush is partially responsible for the gridlock, “But in fairness, I hold congressional Democrats accountable, too. There is a breakdown in the system, whether you agree with him or not.

It's the Dems who have had back room judicial litmus tests, not the Pubs (witness 1/3 of the Supreme Court). Now they're doing it out in the open. Translation of this episode: LIEberman got nailed, and barely escaped with his poise.
7 posted on 03/01/2003 12:43:45 AM PST by Paul_B
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To: 11th_VA
That was Lieberman's wakeup call. A more informed electorate that will demand accountability. The senators need to step back and remember why they were sent to Washington.
8 posted on 03/01/2003 12:55:24 AM PST by swheats
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To: 11th_VA
The Democrat Senators think their job is to PICK the judges!!! They are there to vote UP or DOWN......Thank you Mr. WISE!!
9 posted on 03/01/2003 2:45:43 AM PST by Claire Voyant ((visualize whirled peas))
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To: 11th_VA
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10 posted on 03/01/2003 3:01:15 AM PST by I Am Not A Mod
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To: 11th_VA
He said that Bush is partially responsible for the gridlock

The logic on this escapes me. What specifically is the president doing to prevent the Senate from voting. I'm not aware of anything. Has Bush ripped out all the little voting switches they have or something?

For anyone but the Democrats, this is the easiest thing in the world to resolve.

Frist: Joe, do you vote to comfirm Estrada?

Joe: Bill, I really don't have enough information to confirm him. I'm just not sure whether he'll make a good judge.

Frist: OK, Joe, I'll record that as a "No". Next. Chuckie, do you vote to comfirm Estrada?

11 posted on 03/01/2003 3:19:35 AM PST by laredo44
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To: 11th_VA
“The only way to break through this is by forgetting who is Republican and who is Democrat and moving forward.”

Translation;

Forget about Estrada fer cris'sake! Bush wasn't the true victor in 2000!

To hell with the Federalist Papers, the Electoral College and the SCOTUS!

12 posted on 03/01/2003 3:54:34 AM PST by johnny7 (Joe Lieberman... he can be cornered but never pinned.)
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To: 11th_VA
“I don’t know what the answer (to the Estrada gridlock) is, exactly,” said Lieberman.

How about "It's the DemocRATS, Stupid!"

13 posted on 03/01/2003 4:01:51 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: laredo44
>>The logic on this escapes me.

May I point out that we are talking about a Democrat here?

Logic and analysis are the mortal enemy of the Left.
14 posted on 03/01/2003 4:46:25 AM PST by FreedomPoster (This Space Intentionally Blank)
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To: FreedomPoster
May I point out that we are talking about a Democrat here?

Logic and analysis are the mortal enemy of the Left.

Actually, yes, you may point this out as often as possible.

15 posted on 03/01/2003 5:31:01 AM PST by laredo44
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To: Claire Voyant
Mr Wise obviously is not a product of public schools. They do not teach the Federalist Papers nor the Constitution there anymore.
16 posted on 03/01/2003 5:37:47 AM PST by Trust but Verify
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To: 11th_VA; Jim Robinson
This is great - we all need to meet and greet our Democratic Senators with the truth. Hey Jim Rob, is there a FR link to the Federalist Papers?
17 posted on 03/01/2003 6:06:44 AM PST by RushingWater
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To: 11th_VA
“I don’t know what the answer (to the Estrada gridlock) is, exactly,” said Lieberman.

That's funny, he seems to know the answer to everything else...which is supposedly why he's running for President. And he knew the answer to a certain other "gridlock" incident in November 2000.

Lieberman wants to be the first Jewish U.S. president but isn't principled enough to stop the Hillary-Daschle steamrolling of the Constitution and vote for a man who would be the first Hispanic Circuit Court judge.

18 posted on 03/01/2003 6:25:08 AM PST by arasina (If you stand for principle, it will stand for you.)
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To: 11th_VA
The tide is coming in on the Estrada nomination, I can feel it.

Notice how this paper has to explain what the story is about...IOW its' readers don't know about the Estrada story yet. The more publicity this gets, the better for us, so time is on our side.

19 posted on 03/01/2003 6:29:12 AM PST by ez ("Stable and free nations do not breed ... ideologies of murder. "- GWB)
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To: RushingWater
This took me 3-4 clicks from the FR home page.

Constitution=>Unity&Federalism=>Federalist Papers (HTML)

http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa00.htm

I probably really had 3 more clicks from going down one dead end path.
20 posted on 03/01/2003 6:41:34 AM PST by FreedomPoster (This Space Intentionally Blank)
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