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To: exodus
...I an[sic] a juror; I decide what the law means.
A judge merely presides over the courtroom while I make my decision.

Fortunately you are wrong. That said, President Bush the elder did not invoke the United Nations as the new world order. It was a stupid remark and should have never been uttered...everyone seems to forget that Hitler had a thing about new world order as well. It was equally as dumb a remark as that by Henry Kissinger and his 'defining moment' and 'fundamental change' hogwash.

Now, however, President Bush the younger is quite correct that this is a new game and the old rules don't apply and even without the threat of nuclear annihilation the CIC must have the ability to order retaliation against terrorists attacks without pussy footing around with congressional poohbahs and poopers.

Now, with that said, are you aware of how many Native Americans were slaughtered without a declaration of war by Congress? Do you know under what authority Colonel Custer galloped into a trap?

Are you aware that United Fruit declared war more often than Congress?

CIC means taking charge and kicking ass. President Bush is doing just that...at great risk to his own popularity and safety...God bless him and all who serve.

65 posted on 03/01/2003 7:30:02 PM PST by harrowup (Powell, Rumsfeld, Meyers, Rice, Cheney to the woodshed, asap.)
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To: harrowup

President Bush the elder did not invoke the United Nations as the "new world order. "
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I never said that Bush Sr. named the United Nations as the leader of the New World Order.

I do remember listening to his speech, and I got the impression that he was talking about a world government, not a hippy kind of 'happy dreams."

I can't quote the speach, it was a long time ago, but that was my impression at the time.

69 posted on 03/01/2003 7:39:24 PM PST by exodus
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To: harrowup

Now, however, President Bush the younger is quite correct that this is a new game and the old rules don't apply and even without the threat of nuclear annihilation the CIC must have the ability to order retaliation against terrorists attacks without pussy footing around with congressional poohbahs and poopers.
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I would agree with you in the case of an emergency. That isn't the case with Bush's war with Iraq. There's no emergency at all.

We've had plenty of time to think about this war, whether it's a good idea or not. If it's a good idea, declare war. If not, don't. Either way, the decision is to be made in Congress, not in the Executive Branch.

70 posted on 03/01/2003 7:44:20 PM PST by exodus
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To: harrowup
Now, with that said, are you aware of how many Native Americans were slaughtered without a declaration of war by Congress? Do you know under what authority Colonel Custer galloped into a trap?
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Past violations of law do not excuse present violations.

71 posted on 03/01/2003 7:46:06 PM PST by exodus
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To: harrowup
(Commander in Chief) means taking charge and kicking ass. President Bush is doing just that
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The title of "Commander in Chief" does not confer immunity from the requirements of law.

President Bush does not have legal authority to decide war, and Congress can't legally delegate it's responsibility to decide war.

72 posted on 03/01/2003 7:52:35 PM PST by exodus
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