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To: u-89
Now since "bible" is in your moniker how would like people to jump all over you as being a fanatically, fascistic Taliban type of person every time you post? How about remembering the "do unto others..." admonition and that little bit about not bearing false witness which a smear of an entire group of people is.

Nothing personal mind you but your name indicates that you should know better where some of the other detracting posters here, the usual suspects on libertarian threads, are hopeless.

cordially,

Dear honorable u-89:

Having bible in my SN causes just that in this real world of differing opinion and if I weren't able to deal with it I'd certainly have to leave. You mention a couple of bible verses which I always find interesting coming from people I assume not to be Christian. I only make that assumption because Christians are in the minority so it's merely a probablity assumption weighed by your defense of libertarians whose opinions I also find to be particularly non-Christian.

Therefore it is a hard for me to enter into a serious bible conversation. I must compliment you for not using both of the standard "heathen verses" which are: do unto others... and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Every heathen on earth, including Metalica, seems to know these verses and is very guick to pull them on Christians when we dare express any opinion that they don't happen to like. I've studied to bible too long to react as if I've really been admonished.

My comment comes from a study of libertarian doctrine which shows me that they are very often pro legalization of drugs and prostitution and gambling and other "liberties" that they feel the government has no moral right to control. It is the bible that causes me to disagree with this libertarian point of view.

equally cordially, BW

43 posted on 03/05/2003 9:30:00 AM PST by biblewonk
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To: biblewonk
It is the bible that causes me to disagree with this libertarian point of view.

Ah good. Then please point out where in the Bible it says that it is the governments job to prevent these things.(drugs and prostitution and gambling )

Might want to check to see that you aren't reading the Koran.

Got to love your type. You think you can legislate people into Heaven.

45 posted on 03/05/2003 10:08:18 AM PST by DAnconia55
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To: biblewonk
To the right honorable freeper BW,

You wrote: "you... I assume not to be Christian.....weighed by your defense of libertarians"

You assume much and are mistaken. I can believe biblical teachings yet out of respect for liberty and a free society agree to allow my fellow man to live as he sees fit as long as he does not do physical harm to others or commit theft or fraud. So my being a libertarian is not out of seeking license for licentious pursuits as assumed rather it is of respect for the principles of limited government that make me one. It seems that we differ because it appears you wish to live in a society where all live under biblical strictures hopefully by faith and if not by force of law (physical coercion).

As far as the war on drugs go it bothers me not if my neighbor drinks a beer, smokes a joint or both nor does it bother me that an Indian eats mushrooms in his religious practices. Neither have done me harm. What does harm us all is prohibition as we learned from the alcohol ban. This brought on large scale criminal activity giving birth to organized crime. There was the corruption of politicians, judges and law enforcement officers on a massive scale and the booze still got to those who wanted it. The WOD has proven to have even worse effects than the alcohol ban. It has led to militarized police forces, urban war zones, no knock raids, property confiscation abuses, feds snooping into your bank transactions assuming your guilt up front and a lot, lot more. In short the WOD is not only a failure in its stated goal but it does severe harm to liberty and causes severe chaos and harm to society. Drugs could not be any more available than they are today and they are illegal so what good does it do for them to be in that status? Weighing the pros and cons there is one inescapable conclusion. What many social conservatives try and do is reverse modern social trends not through evangelism and spiritual revival but through law i.e. force. That is a recipe for totalitarianism and they unwittingly ally themselves with the socialist central planners who they otherwise oppose(supposedly). Of course some would rather give up their own freedoms for the right to tell others how to live.

cordially,

51 posted on 03/05/2003 4:10:39 PM PST by u-89
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