[mvpel]

There seems to be evidence that the only way Muslims can run a country that isn't a miserable, oppressive hellhole is to run it on a strictly secular model - take Turkey for example.

But that is in direct contrast to the tenets of Islam, isn't it?

[freedom44]

But we're living against the Scriptures of the Bible in the USA.

Secularism is against our Bible, but we must modernize which we have grasped unlike most Islamic nations.